Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by jinzin244 pages

"If Captain America ALMOST knocked Wolverine out, what the hell is there to stop Spiderman, who is CONSIDERABLY much stronger than Cap (By about 10 tons), from actually knocking out Wolverine? "

where does it say anything about cap almost knocking wolvie out? NO WHERE.... it only pissed wolverine off if anything....you want the rest of that fight....it doesn't end too well for our cap....

and as far as wolverine's skeleton go.......it's bonded get over it...this has been stated multiple times in the comics...it has been proven multiple times in the comics as well....show me one instance where wolverine's bones break when they're adamantium...........I can think of one and it comes from a what if comic....that's it....it doesn't makes sense, i know...but that's just the way it is.

Originally posted by jinzin
[B]Now you can clearlt see human torch was schooling spidermna BY HIMSELF! if you honestly think that spiderman attacking a bunch of heroes that were trying to contain him for questioning is a victory...then I say at least wolverine put two of the FF down and out in his fight...and they weren't holding back for him.

DUDE...are you for real...lol...you forgot like 10 pages out of the damb story..and the Enemy of the state battle your referring to..your still joking right..Johnny Storm was put down by a flame retardent gel...and don't tell me that Wolverine was able to teleport by himself after mister fantastic wrapped him up like an anacanda..your a trip...


Pathetic...this doesn't even desrve a response....if you're going to quote me...use direct quotes.....if you're going to sum up my points...sum up the points I've been making....don't sit there typing up things i've never said and claim that these are my words.....just pathetic. really come back when you have something worth debating.

lol..Jin..I don't mean to be rude buddy..you scan one or two pages that you scan well...but please..include the WHOLE DAMB STORY..not just one page...lol..its clear that your being very misleading..give it up bud..and Read FF Annual 1..that has the whole damb story...NUFF SAID...LOL...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...

LOL...dude..your a complete joke..so far..you've managed to come up ..taken from re story..and you consistantly leave out pages that ex

"DUDE...are you for real...lol...you forgot like 10 pages out of the damb story..and the Enemy of the state battle your referring to..your still joking right..Johnny Storm was put down by a flame retardent gel...and don't tell me that Wolverine was able to teleport after mister fantastic wrapped him up like an anacanda..your a trip..."

no...jonney storm was put down when wolverine speared his ass from 20 stories up and they hit a gas station....you think those aren't the only pics in that rehash? GO BUY THE DAMN COMIC AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!

"lol..Jin..I don't mean to be rude buddy..you scan one or two pages that you scan well...but please..include the WHOLE DAMB STORY..not just one page...lol..its clear that your being very misleading..give it up bud..and Read FF Annual 1..that has the whole damb story...NUFF SAID...LOL...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...'

pffft you haven't even read FF annual no.1 don't tell me what's what....ou've admitted that you haven't even read half the examples that have been brought up here.

Originally posted by jinzin
"You should continue posting to show the part where Spiderman creates a bat of webbing knocks those fire missles away."

that's a reference to a diff fight alltogether for which I've posted sans as well. that never took place in his fight with the FF but in his fight with jonney storm....if you think it did. show me... really.

I will show you, with something that someone already posted.

http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/fantastic_four_annual/001.html

Those two scans you show there, they are exactly what happens in this description of the same comic you're talking about.

That picture you have with the Thing punching Spiderman? You should keep posting what happens next.

Just to shut Reed up, the Thing steps over to Spider-Man and punches him right on the jaw. Spidey's response? "Oww! Ya big ape, who do ya think you're pushin' around?" Then he picks the Thing up and throws him across the room. "That's what I get for pulling my punch on accounta his size!" declares the Thing. From one end of the room, he leans down and pulls up a section of the metal floor. Then he "cracks the whip" with it, sending an undulation through that section which tears loose as it goes. It looks like this wave of metal will either trap or crush Spider-Man against the wall but the web-spinner has "got stunts of [his] own". He crawls up the wall to evade the mass of flooring.

While Spidey is up there, the Thing throws a big hunk of machinery at him. (I've looked and looked at this panel and I can't figure out where the heck this chunk of metal comes from. It looks a bit like an oversized magnet with tubes coming off the end of it.) Whatever it is, the web-slinger manages to evade it. Then he tries a new trick. He takes one end of his webbing and plugs it into an electrical socket. The other end is balled up so that it looks like a gray balloon. He swings the webbing over his head like a lasso and throws it at the Thing. The webbing opens into a big net that settles over the Thing and the socket turns it into an "electrified web". (Somehow, it stands up over the Thing like a big domed cage instead of settling down on top of him.) The current is not enough to injure the Thing but "enough to keep you out of my hair for a few minutes".

And then with the Human Torch picture you posted...

Now the Human Torch steps in. He thinks he has Spider-Man trapped in a circle of flame but the wall-crawler jumps over it to the wall and then leaps to the ceiling. The Torch counters by using his flame like a blowtorch. He cuts the ceiling around Spidey in a circle. The section of ceiling to which the webhead is clinging starts to fall to the ground. The Torch follows this up with a slew of "low-intensity fire-bombs" (which are actually just seven different blobs of flame in the shape of torpedoes) that he flings at the web-slinger. Spidey responds by forming a baseball bat out of his webbing and swatting the fire-bombs back where they came from. "I got news for you" he tells the Torch, "you're a crummy pitcher!"

It's right there. Descriptions from the same comic from which you acquired those pictures you posted.

There was in no way a schooling from HT. And Thing was clearly incapacitated till Sue helped him out.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I will show you, with something that someone already posted.

http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/fantastic_four_annual/001.html

Those two scans you show there, they are exactly what happens in this description of the same comic you're talking about.

That picture you have with the Thing punching Spiderman? You should keep posting what happens next.

Just to shut Reed up, the Thing steps over to Spider-Man and punches him right on the jaw. Spidey's response? "Oww! Ya big ape, who do ya think you're pushin' around?" Then he picks the Thing up and throws him across the room. "That's what I get for pulling my punch on accounta his size!" declares the Thing. From one end of the room, he leans down and pulls up a section of the metal floor. Then he "cracks the whip" with it, sending an undulation through that section which tears loose as it goes. It looks like this wave of metal will either trap or crush Spider-Man against the wall but the web-spinner has "got stunts of [his] own". He crawls up the wall to evade the mass of flooring.

While Spidey is up there, the Thing throws a big hunk of machinery at him. (I've looked and looked at this panel and I can't figure out where the heck this chunk of metal comes from. It looks a bit like an oversized magnet with tubes coming off the end of it.) Whatever it is, the web-slinger manages to evade it. Then he tries a new trick. He takes one end of his webbing and plugs it into an electrical socket. The other end is balled up so that it looks like a gray balloon. He swings the webbing over his head like a lasso and throws it at the Thing. The webbing opens into a big net that settles over the Thing and the socket turns it into an "electrified web". (Somehow, it stands up over the Thing like a big domed cage instead of settling down on top of him.) The current is not enough to injure the Thing but "enough to keep you out of my hair for a few minutes".

And then with the Human Torch picture you posted...

Now the Human Torch steps in. He thinks he has Spider-Man trapped in a circle of flame but the wall-crawler jumps over it to the wall and then leaps to the ceiling. The Torch counters by using his flame like a blowtorch. He cuts the ceiling around Spidey in a circle. The section of ceiling to which the webhead is clinging starts to fall to the ground. The Torch follows this up with a slew of "low-intensity fire-bombs" (which are actually just seven different blobs of flame in the shape of torpedoes) that he flings at the web-slinger. Spidey responds by forming a baseball bat out of his webbing and swatting the fire-bombs back where they came from. "I got news for you" he tells the Torch, "you're a crummy pitcher!"

It's right there. Descriptions from the same comic from which you acquired those pictures you posted.

There was in no way a schooling from HT. And Thing was clearly incapacitated till Sue helped him out.

Thank you...its good to seeing that someone in here is able to identify the truth from a lie...okay Jinzin..what say you now..lol...

look guys, just because spider-man has, or has come close to beating the FF, in a vs forum with no bad writing, and pure logic and waying the odds with powers, abilities, and experience, spider-man does not win.

however, the same exact thing goes for spider-man vs wolverine, spider-man vs dd, spidey vs cap, and spidey vs all three.

so spidey looses to ff
spidey beats the icon trio

Originally posted by jinzin
"lol..Jin..I don't mean to be rude buddy..you scan one or two pages that you scan well...but please..include the WHOLE DAMB STORY..not just one page...lol..its clear that your being very misleading..give it up bud..and Read FF Annual 1..that has the whole damb story...NUFF SAID...LOL...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...'

pffft you haven't even read FF annual no.1 don't tell me what's what....ou've admitted that you haven't even read half the examples that have been brought up here.

Nice retort...lol..but it still doesn't take away from the fact that you've left out virtually 25 panels of story..as well as many other pertinant facts from all the other "historical" stories you posted...come on man...you can pfft..all you want..but at least give the ENTIRE story when you post a picture..

Originally posted by jinzin
no...jonney storm was put down when wolverine speared his ass from 20 stories up and they hit a gas station....you think those aren't the only pics in that rehash? GO BUY THE DAMN COMIC AND SEE FOR YOURSELF! [/B]

Okay..I'm willing to accept the Johnny storm part..It's been a while since I've read the story..so I don't recall exactly what happened..but the mister Fantastic incident..he did wrap him up in like one second..how the hell can you not even retort back to that..you like to rebutt one or two parts of an argument..but you never address the entire thing..and again Wolverine was getting all kinds of help..he can't teleport on his own you know..come on now dude..try to keep it real...

Okay condensed version of the last 2 pages once again..


Jinzin:
that's a reference to a diff fight alltogether for which I've posted sans as well. that never took place in his fight with the FF but in his fight with jonney storm....if you think it did. show me... really.

-d-do you just not understand the simplest of logic? or am I writing in a different language...THIS IS ANOTHER REHASH OF SPIDERMAN no.1! these are all the pics to be scanned.

pffft you haven't even read FF annual no.1 don't tell me what's what....ou've admitted that you haven't even read half the examples that have been brought up here.

point 1: Spider Man takes on the entire FF..in Amazing Spider Man 1..lol....this encounter is presented once again in Fantastic Four Annual 1..and 25 additional panels are added to the story..it's also briefly recreated in Amazing 375..however..much of the original story is left out..to make a long story short..Spidey took punches from the Thing..which is something that neither Cap nor DD can do..lol..he also incapacitated the thing/Mister Fantastic/and invisible woman..anyway..it's all from based on the same damb story!!..lol
don't believe me..go to this link..(posted for the last damb time by whob)

http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/rev...annual/001.html

Jinzin:

no...jonney storm was put down when wolverine speared his ass from 20 stories up and they hit a gas station....you think those aren't the only pics in that rehash? GO BUY THE DAMN COMIC AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!

okay..I admitted to not have the completely accurate depiction of Wolvie Vs Johnny..I do however remember his flame taken out by something other than Wolverine's freaking claws..lol...now can you admit that Wolverine was not facing the FF all by his lonesome..(ie teleportation..a freaking computer attached to his damb head..lol..people monitoring him and assisting him in the attack..)

point being there is no comparison between the two battles..Spider Man clearly had the advantage in his..while Wolvie..even with help..was unable to defeat the FF...now what say you to that chum?

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
so spidey looses to ff
spidey beats the icon trio [/B]

simple and to the point..I like it..this thread shall now come to an end...

"That picture you have with the Thing punching Spiderman? You should keep posting what happens next."

How many times do I have to say it THIS DIDN'T COME FROM FF ANNUAL n.1 it came from AMAZING SPIDERMAN 375 does that look like it's art that came out of the freakin 60's to you? lol....in these captions spidey even says: "that's when I realized the true power of the human tortch and really strated to wish I had quite while I was ahead."
that's a direct quote from spiderman himself.....I think there is some serious miscommunication here....in the pages I scanned the pics from....that's all they show...that's it.....both those scans and the description from FF annual 1 are similar but both have huge differences as well.....In any case...the point still remains...spiderman isn't beating the FF anywhere....THATS NO LIE....look and see for yourself! the pics are clearly showing an ff team not trying to fight spidey ad spidey attacking them anyways.....like i said if the FF were serious spidey would be dead in 1 panal courtesy of invisible woman....there's no point in debating that.....the schooling I'm reffering to is the beach battle between spidey and HT that I posted as well.....these aren't lies....they're on the fraking papers that I scanned for you guys....just look at em....jeesh.

"ice retort...lol..but it still doesn't take away from the fact that you've left out virtually 25 panels of story..as well as many other pertinant facts from all the other "historical" stories you posted...come on man...you can pfft..all you want..but at least give the ENTIRE story when you post a picture.."

what pertinent facts? the pics are in plain sight for everyone to see. lol.

"Okay..I'm willing to accept the Johnny storm part..It's been a while since I've read the story..so I don't recall exactly what happened..but the mister Fantastic incident..he did wrap him up in like one second..how the hell can you not even retort back to that..you like to rebutt one or two parts of an argument..but you never address the entire thing..and again Wolverine was getting all kinds of help..he can't teleport on his own you know..come on now dude..try to keep it real...'

did you even look at the end of the original fight? stretch was holding thing back WHILE he cornered spidey....so much for that theory.

"point 1: Spider Man takes on the entire FF..in Amazing Spider Man 1..lol....this encounter is presented once again in Fantastic Four Annual 1..and 25 additional panels are added to the story..it's also briefly recreated in Amazing 375..however..much of the original story is left out..to make a long story short..Spidey took punches from the Thing..which is something that neither Cap nor DD can do..lol..he also incapacitated the thing/Mister Fantastic/and invisible woman..anyway..it's all from based on the same damb story!!..lol
don't believe me..go to this link..(posted for the last damb time by whob)"

you're an idiot......thing isn't incapacitated....he's trying to go back after spidey by the end of the "fight"....invisible woman isn't incapacitated either...she got spun around......and wasn't using her other powers besides invisibility......stretch....well I defer to my last post....
spidey took a punch from the thing while thing was holding back on account of spidey's size.......spiderman conceded to the fact that he lucky thing held back....

any of the trio could take a thing punch.....DD fought hulk and took 2 or 3 pimp slaps from him during the fight...and survived.....He's the least durable person here....and he did that....spiderman isn't putting him out with one punch.

and while we're on that subject...someone said DD has never bounded around hulk like spiderman.....WRONG....look at DD 163 I beleive....daredevil does EXACTLY what spidey appears to be doing in the pic you guys posted....He's hitting hulk from several different angels before hulk can even respond to them.

not only that...but overall we've given you spidey guys a HUGE ben. of the doubt in that DD is the weak link here.....he may be but not by much......did you know DD has gone toe to toe with captain america and it ended in a draw???? didn't think so.....but then again...you guys don't seem to know much except what you read off the internet.

"okay..I admitted to not have the completely accurate depiction of Wolvie Vs Johnny..I do however remember his flame taken out by something other than Wolverine's freaking claws..lol...now can you admit that Wolverine was not facing the FF all by his lonesome..(ie teleportation..a freaking computer attached to his damb head..lol..people monitoring him and assisting him in the attack..)"

I admit he wasn't by himself...but considering the fact that the FF weren't holding back for him like they did for spiderman I think it levels the playing feild.....and wolverine did take out jonneys flame with retardent at the beginning of the book.....by the end jonney was flame on again and wolverine took him out exactly as I mentioned.

"point being there is no comparison between the two battles..Spider Man clearly had the advantage in his..while Wolvie..even with help..was unable to defeat the FF...now what say you to that chum?""

spiderman beat up on a bunch of superhero's who were admittedly (by both parties) holding back for his safety......wolverine on the other hand was getting death threats in his fight....if it's not comparible...it's because wolverine was dealing with a much more serious FF team.

any 3 of them could get knocked out from a single punch from spider-man

LOL I own Amazing Spiderman #1! I hate that guy though because he is always complaining.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
any 3 of them could get knocked out from a single punch from spider-man

Not at all

"any 3 of them could get knocked out from a single punch from spider-man"

I've already disputed this....like 5 times.....next!