Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Originally posted by Wynndar
Like ive mentioned before...seeing that DD has taken out Sabretooth in two hits, I would have to rate him superior in skill to Wolverine. Daredevil's powers are more complicated than just "radar sense"...he uses all of his senses together in manner like no one else...he also has a spiritual sense that no one really mentions...this sense has demonstrated to act before spiderman's spidersense even...for example, Daredevil could sense the gamma bomb hidden by the Reed Richards doppleganger in Infinity War...and when Diablo and his Elementals were trying to take over the world, it was Daredevil who reacted to it before Spiderman's spider sense...my memories a little fuzzy, I may have to find the issue, but when Terrax lifted the island of manhattan into space, didnt daredevil rescue Spiderman from a nasty fall? Yes Spidey is stronger, more durable, and more flexible...But Daredevil has the greater level of skill...as for Captain Amercia, his hand to hand has only been challenge by Guys like Black Panther...his fighting ability in hand to hand is uncontested by spiderman or the others.

Thats why I think Spidey can take wolverine one on one...it could go either way with Daredevil, but there is no way he could get cap.

I agree Spidey doesn't match Cap in hand-to-hand combat, but his spider-sense gives him an incredible edge. He dodged blows from the Cat who is comparable to Cap. Can Cap beat Spidey? Sure. But can Spidey also take out Cap? Absolutely, IF he's on his game and doesn't let his respect get in the way.

I agree. One-on-one between Cap and Spidey, and this is going to be a really good contest, but when you throw Wolverine and DD into the mix, I just don't see Spider-Man pulling it off. And this whole thread is about Spidey vs. the 3 of 'em. Man, it just ain't happening. Sorry, but I see the spider getting squished.

Originally posted by Havoc470
wolvie is a very vulnerable character, alot of myth around the character as to what could actually kill him which i wish could be proven already, there should be a comic that finally exploits his true vulnerabilities

anyway, i know of a few spidey fans who take him to a wolverine888888 extent, but none of them i've seen on this forum so you're right

i read this wolvie/punisher comic...and like....punisher blows wolves head off...well not OFF but like.....all his skin, tissue, muscle are all gone....da only thing left is his adamantium skull and his tongue...i was like....wooaa....i remmber reading sumwhere dat if wolvy loses too much of his skin or large amounts of stuff...he can die.....but wow...survivong a shot gun blowing ur face off literally is pretty daym kool....so i[m guessing u'd need to blow EVERYTHING apart...that his heart and brain are no longer existent

well thats just comic crap, it is said in the marvel handbook that any thing that destroyes a major part of wolvies body or his major internal organs like heart lungs liver etc can kill him, neway, lol, even if he did manage to grow back his brain, he shouldnt have retained any memories expiriences or skills from before, he should be like a newborn, lol, gaga grwaaaar, ima gonna skewer ur damn asss creed, gaga,
lol

actually his healing factor even regenerate his memories and kill his bad memories which is why he cant remember his past, its been shown several times in comics that when he gets shot by railguns his heart stops beating for about 5 to 10 seconds while his body still heals

Originally posted by Capt.JK
I agree. One-on-one between Cap and Spidey, and this is going to be a really good contest, but when you throw Wolverine and DD into the mix, I just don't see Spider-Man pulling it off. And this whole thread is about Spidey vs. the 3 of 'em. Man, it just ain't happening. Sorry, but I see the spider getting squished.

Of course he's squished, but that's obvious. You can't expect him to go up against all three at once. That may have been the intention of the thread, but I think everyone agrees he can't win in that regard, so we're having more fun with it, lol.

Originally posted by Havoc470
i dont think that makes DD's skill superior to wolvies, it's been in a comic and i cant go against that, i just think that alot of DD's writers went way too far seeing as DD has had problems with lesser people than sabretooth so many other times before and even after that fight

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Of course he's squished, but that's obvious. You can't expect him to go up against all three at once. That may have been the intention of the thread, but I think everyone agrees he can't win in that regard, so we're having more fun with it, lol.

I wouldn't say so, Like I said, Spidey has given trouble to the FF and the X-men b4. don't underestimate Spidey like so many do. they only beat Spidey in fighting skill, and strategy, and that is combined. speed, agility, and strength aren't compared. And dodging multiple ppl, whether they b super powered, or regular, fighting skills or not, is not hard for spidey.

he's given trouble to the xmen before, in a full on fight? do you by any chance know the comics i'd like to read that

anyway cap tips the scales of skill and strategy, as he has lead the avengers like a super-swat-team i could only imagine how tight packed their attacks would be with cap at the helm, wolvie and daredevil arent the type to not listen to him, no matter how much wolvie hates it heheh

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
I wouldn't say so, Like I said, Spidey has given trouble to the FF and the X-men b4. don't underestimate Spidey like so many do. they only beat Spidey in fighting skill, and strategy, and that is combined. speed, agility, and strength aren't compared. And dodging multiple ppl, whether they b super powered, or regular, fighting skills or not, is not hard for spidey.

Oh I don't underestimate Spidey, not at all. I'm the first to defend him to people who dismiss him, but he has shown to be fairly matched with DD and Wolvie before, and like people have said, Cap tips the scales. He can take all three alone, but the first two have given him a workout, and he never faced Cap. The FF are too different to handle him. None are particularly fast, nor are they very good at anticipating Spidey's moves. Spidey took them on before Sue became ungodly powerful too. DD and Cap have similar, albeit inferior, reflexes, and Wolvie is fairly fast too. I think these three are a better match than the FF.

I think the only way they could win is if they kept spidey cornered and tight so he had less room to manuver. in open space spidey has it in a bag. like taking someone out of the fight and droping them a hundred feet. capn is strong and an excellent fighter, but spidey can take more punishment than him and DD can handle. one slip with wolvy and the fight is over, but claws are not new to spidey, hell, half his villians have claws that can rip thru steel like paper. in open space spideys speed is too overwhelming. and in a tight spot its a battle to keep him from usin his speedball bouncing ability. a tough fight form either side, but i wouldn't say an absolute win. to get spidey u have to catch him first. And spidey is no slouch in the brains department.

Spider-Man has a reasonable chance if they don't work like a team. He can take'em out one by one. But if they work together, and especially when Cap leads the battle (and he will, or what did you think 🙂 ), he has virtually no chance, or very little.

If anyone has been reading the latest Cap stories, you'll see a "suped-up" Red Skull drop a building on Cap (after beating it to death with Cap's head), and Cap still won't go down for the count! So counting Cap out of the actual physical fight itself and relegating him to the "leadership only" role is a HUGE mistake. His endurance and ability to "take it" as well as "dish it out" is being underestimated I think by the Spidey fans and a few others on this thread. In the fight I referenced earlier between Cap and DD, DD made the mistake of dodging Cap's shield, but Cap wasn't throwing it at him. Cap took out the whole roof by slicing through the support beams with a well-aimed throw and brought it down on DD's head. If Spidey starts dancing around (and we all know he will), Cap will find a way to bring him back down to earth where he and Wolverine can get their mitts on him. Dare Devil is just icing on the cake to keep Spider-Man busy up high until Cap can figure a way to bring him down.

how do u figure a way to bring someone down you can't catch? Spidey can take more than Captain anyhow. He has also shown great feats of strength that the three combined can't accomplish. I don't doubt Capn's resilience, but Spidey is over 20 times Capn's strength, If spidey can take more punishment than he can give, than I'm sorry, I see Capn's strenght as obsolete. And as for leading the team, Spidey isn't gonna just sit around and let him make a plan and bark orders without foiling his strategy in the process. You can't forget that the three are only Optimal Human Beings. Spidey is so much more than human. Over 20 times optimal human. That's over 40 times regular people.

I'd love to meet an "optimal human" who can have a building brought down on top of them and come out swinging. Red Skull brought the buiding down using Cap's head as the sledgehammer to knock out the support walls. This seems a little more to me than "optimal human". The Super Soldier Serum kept Cap alive frozen in the north Atlantic by retarding his body's need for oxygen and nutrients. "Optimal human?" In a Marvel TPB novel published in 1968 entitled "The Great Gold Steal", it goes into more detail about Cap's injection of the Super Soldier Serum and all of its effects on his musculature and metabolism. According to this book, Cap is far more than just an "optimal human". And I don't think the others are going to stand around and wait for Cap to direct them like a puppeteer. They'll just take his direction as the fight progresses.

*The new "Secret Wars" series is interesting because all of these guys are in it. I hope we'll get to see how Wolverine and DD react to Cap's natural role of leader on the battlefield.*

Spidey can take a biulding down by himself, with his head if he pleased for exercise. He took a building down before cuz he was pissed and there were no badies around...yet.

Spidey always has things like buildings fall on him. I'm not doubting Capn, just considering Spidey's strength and resilience. Spidey gets smashed around by the Rhino and Venom, and Hulk, and Morlun. Spidey's head gets used as a bouncing wrecking ball on a weekly basis. If you can catch a car with your back to protect civilians that was thrown at you and twenty feet in the air, and keep fighting you are pretty enduring. Spidey has been hit and beaten harder than the jacked up red skull could dish out and he has kept fighting. Spidey is no punk. He has ripped an entire floor straight off the ground and just to show off.

Dude, first you say he can't be caught and then you say his head is used as a wrecking ball on a weekly bases. So which one is it?

There is NO way that spiderman could take on Wolverine, Captain america, and Daredevil, and win. NO WAY. You can argue this untill your nuts fall off, but there is no way that sPiderman fight all three of these characters and win. AnyONE of these three characters is enough to give spiderman a fight of his life. Unless Spiderman had access to nuclear weapons he loses within the first three minutes. I mean REALLY!!! Maybe if you said Venom and Spiderman VS daredevil, Wolverine, and captain America this argument would have more rationaility to it, but even then Spidey and venom would lose.

spidewy has advisaries faster and stronger than him. my point is spidey is no slouch in any area. doc oc is no picnic, niether is a brawl with scorpion, venom, or carnage (ppl with similar powers to spidey, and even they have a hard time catching spidey).

Well, I agree Spidey is FAR more resilient than DD. But I never said the building coming down had anything to do with the thread fight. What I was pointing out was Cap's strategy and execution to bring DD down where Cap could pound on him. I figure a similar strategy would work on Spider-Man. And if Spidey did get caught under the aforementioned building, he would still have to dig his way freewhether it hurt him or not. Do you honestly think everyone (ESPECIALLY Wolverine) is just going to stand around and take a smoke break while he does that? I also mentioned the building to point out Cap's endurance to damage and pain, which the Spidey fans seem to think is a minor thing. "Optimal human?" Not hardly.