I think it is a good thing that smoking is banned in particular areas of bars and clubs. Of course smokers should have a place (preferably indoors) where they can smoke, but it should be away from non smokers and in particular the staff working in the bar. They have the right to work in an environment that isn't constantly engulfed in second hand smoke. I think that right outweighs the right of a smoker to light up inside.
I'm with finti on this one - loadsa people want to ban smoking in bars and pubs in the UK. Personally I dont have a problem with some pubs and clubs being smoke free, but i like smoky bars and pubs even though i dont smoke (unless i'm having a really bad day). My company's policy is not smoking on company premises - but the manager does so we officially made the managers office the smoking room.
As long as there are some places that are smoke free - like no smoking areas in restaurants and everything I dont see why anyone should try and ban it. Whats wrong with compromising
but it should be away from non smokers and in particular the staff working in the bar. They have the right to work in an environment that isn't constantly engulfed in second hand smoke. I think that right outweighs the right of a smoker to light up inside.but their right to work in a smoke free environment does that outweigh the part that they might loose their job. Cause thats the situation in Norway now, a lot of pubs and bars are struggeling financially.
Smoking reduces life expectancy by 15 to 25 years and is the single most preventable cause of death. In one study, only 42% of male lifelong smokers reached the age of 73, compared to 78% of nonsmokers. Smoking may be even more dangerous in women. Smoking may be even more dangerous now than 30 years ago, most likely because the lower tar and nicotine levels in most cigarette brands cause people to inhale more deeply.
The smoke is the most dangerous component of the cigarette. Smoke contains nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide, which are harmful gases. When people inhale they also bring tar into their lungs. Tar itself includes 4,000 chemicals, some of which are known to cause cancer.
Experts warn that so-called safer cigarettes, which claim to filter out some of these toxins, are still not safe, as the smoke from these cigarettes still contain many harmful chemicals. Even worse, a 2002 study suggested that people who smoke as few as three standard brand cigarettes a day are at higher risk for blood vessel abnormalities that endanger the heart.
Passive smoking numbers shock
London - Passive smoking kills more than 4 000 people a year in Britain, new findings showed on Monday, prompting health professionals to call for a ban on smoking in pubs, restaurants and in the workplace.
Most of those fatally affected by inhaling other people's smoke are relatives of smokers, with some 3 600 people under 65 dying each from lung cancer, heart disease and stroke.
The research undertaken by the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) also revealed that at least 50 people working in the hospitality industry die every year.
The new figures are four times higher than those previously made available. Past estimates suggested second-hand smoke killed around 1 000 Britons a year.
Doctors described the figures as "startling" and said deaths could be prevented by banning cigarette smoking in all indoor public places and workplaces.
Major organizations, including the American Heart Association and US Surgeon General have stated that passive smoke poses a 30% increase in the risk of heart disease. One analysis of studies suggested that exposure to second-hand tobacco smoke may increase the risk of lung cancer in the nonsmoker by about 25%. The Environmental Protection Agency has classified second-hand smoke as a carcinogen.
Doesn' t it bother you that your choice is not only affecting yourself but is endangering the health of non-smokers too?
I can sum up a lot of reasons against smoking. What makes you start smoking in the first place and what do you gain with it?
All public places should ban smoking and have designated areas where smokers can keep their bad habits to themselves. The designated areas should be places that are in open air or special well ventilated rooms.
All public places should ban smoking and have designated areas where smokers can keep their bad habits to themselves. The designated areas should be places that are in open air or special well ventilated rooms.bars and pubs are private owned establishments it should be up to the owner whether to decide if it should allow or disallow smoking
Re: Smoking should it be ban?
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Alot of people I know smokes my mom my stepfather and sometimes my dad and my boyfriend.
and I can't stand the spell or breath.So what are your views on smoking!
Should it be outlawed?What do you think/JM 😮💨 😠
Yes i believe it should be banned. I mean what good is it? Can you name one positive thing that smoking does for you? It's disgusting, smells awful and shortens your life.
Originally posted by Silver Tongue
But why risk it? You don't HAVE to smoke.
Clearly you've never been a smoker. Try smoking for about 25 years and then just going "Ooops! This is bad for me guess I'll quit."
Storm those are all nice statistics but as a smoker, I know em and I don't care. Most people that smoke know them and they don't care either. Statistics do nothing to deter smoking in a smoker.
It is my choice to smoke. I am polite about it. I don't smoke in peoples homes, cars in places its not allowed, not near any doorways where people have to walk through it. But I GREATLY resent being looked at and treated like I'm some kind of pond scum because I smoke. And that happens ALL THE TIME. Many nonsmokers are under the impression that they are higher on the social ladder than those of us that smoke.
The town I lived in a few years ago pop. 60 thousand, had the big petition to ban smoking in all diners, bars etc. And it passed. The reason it passed, is cause the non smokers were the ones that voted. The majority of smokers don't even vote most of the time. And this happened mind you with petitions that numbered over 20 thousand to STOP the ban. But it passed. NOW, this same group of people came to the town I live in now and tried to pull that crap and they were run out of town on a rail. The business owners simple,y said this is MY business and you will NOT tell me how to run it. We have both smoking and non-smoking establishments here. I frequent both.
The guy that mentioned the perfume had a point. Some womens perfume makes me want to puke. But hey I put up with cause its the way it is. Damn I'm getting windy. I'm going to get down off the soapbox nowand go have a smoke. 😮💨
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Clearly you've never been a smoker. Try smoking for about 25 years and then just going "Ooops! This is bad for me guess I'll quit."
Quitting isn't easy, but it's not impossible either. Usually people make 2 or 3 attempts, or more, before finally being able to quit. More than 3 million Americans quit every year.
im sick of health nazis trying to tell me what not to do, what to eat, and having the audacity to try to put it into law. not to attack any nonsmokers, you have the right to not want to smell the stink of cigarette smoke in a restaurant while you eat. i am a smoker and i hate when people are smoking around me when i eat. but who the hell is anybody to tell me what i can and cant do in my home, or in the outdoors? its just control freak nazi shit and it needs to be let go.
how about i just sit on my ass with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other, patting my satisfied gut after i devoured a nice bacon sandwich and afterwards stuff my face with high carb, high fat cake. is that not my choice?
health nazi: your killing yourself!!! it should be illegal!!!
no, i am accepting the great risk that is life. everytime i get in my car and drive i risk dying... so should driving be illegal too? should everything that is not healthy be illegal? should we all just hide in underground bunkers in sterile oxygen tents eating tofu for the rest of our lives?