determinations is a good think when it comes to what you BELIEVE in.
to say there is no poverty in america makes about as much sense as saying there is no poverty at all.
there is belief and there is fact.
im sorry, but i cant respect determined ignorance.
a diehard approach to avoiding fact by putting your head in the sand.
it should not be encouraged at all.
belief is belief, and fact is fact.
saying that nobody has died in america from poverty is like saying nobody has died in america from a terrorist attack. i find it nerveracking.
Originally posted by Mr Zero
Syren does have a valid point here with regards attitude (and I hope she will at least back me up when I say) i also have thought that the question may be phrased badly and the politics behind the attitude may disagree with mine but props to JM for bringing the issue up and arguing her corner. The grammar sucks, but the grammar is here rather than fawning over orlando in LOTR. Time to cut the slack and get back to the issue at hand...If you could choose where your Tax dollar went - i'd be putting a huge mofo tick in the welfare and student grants box and leaving the military to be paid for by the arms manufacturers and the monarchy to be paid for by... NOBODY!
toot Finally!! Cheers buuuuddy 😉
And I agree, the monarchy need no wage, nada.
Originally posted by PVS
determinations is a good think when it comes to what you BELIEVE in.to say there is no poverty in america makes about as much sense as saying there is no poverty at all.
there is belief and there is fact.
im sorry, but i cant respect determined ignorance.
a diehard approach to avoiding fact by putting your head in the sand.
it should not be encouraged at all.belief is belief, and fact is fact.
saying that nobody has died in america from poverty is like saying nobody has died in america from a terrorist attack. i find it nerveracking.
You're hanging onto one thing she said, which she probably worded wrong if her other posts are anything to go by. Let it go hun, you'll feel better 😛
Re: Walfare a good thing or a bad thing?
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Sure being on walfare helps alot of poor people but it is also our tax money and we have the right to know where our money goes too.
Some of our money goes to people who will not get a job and depends on our money to support them.I mean this is america!No one is dieing in the streets here or serving!
So what do you think is a good view on this and a bad review on Walfare?JM 😕 😠
If you're a single parent already working a job but still can't afford to pay the rent at your home, welfare is a good thing.
But if you're very much capible of going out and finding a GOOD job but are ust too lazy then i believe that welfare is a bad thng.
Anything can be either good or bad.
Re: Re: Walfare a good thing or a bad thing?
Originally posted by Tkdgurl
Welfare is good and bad.If you're a single parent already working a job but still can't afford to pay the rent at your home, welfare is a good thing.
But if you're very much capible of going out and finding a GOOD job but are ust too lazy then i believe that welfare is a bad thng.
Anything can be either good or bad.
Amen to that 😉
Coughs to herself cough it is better if you just stop correcting mecough!Anyway yes that is true and that is when the welfare comes but what I am saying is why waste the money on people who don't need it?
Why are these people even allowed to do this?There should be some kind of protion going on so people who need the money can get it and the people who don't can't get it.
Am I right?Or does this already exist?Any comments?JM
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Coughs to herself cough it is better if you just stop correcting mecough!Anyway yes that is true and that is when the welfare comes but what I am saying is why waste the money on people who don't need it?
Why are these people even allowed to do this?There should be some kind of protion going on so people who need the money can get it and the people who don't can't get it.
Am I right?Or does this already exist?Any comments?JM
*whacks you on the back*
Nasty cough you got there m'dear. So, you want people to quit correcting you? Therefore I assume you'd also like me to stop defending you every time someone puts you down, right?
I think it depends. I believe it is a good thing bu more investigation needs to be made on WHO we give it too. Here in Maine, there was a certain group of minorites, who moved here, Did NOT EVEN TRY TO WORK, and all got on the welfare system, they moved here because of better welfare, now that town's economy is getting pretty bad, he asked them not to bring all their relatives because the town just couldn't afford it. He was branded by some as a racist. SO yes I think its gotten to the point in American were we will give it to anybody, and a ALOT of them do not need it. They are just unwilling to TRY to succeed, I think welfare should be a last resort
Welfare was meant to help but it is often abused. I know kids who's parents are drug dealers but still collect a welfare check. My friends aunt actually avoids getting a job because if you don't have a job you get a bigger welfare check. Welfare is outdated and they need to come up with something new. They need to improve inner city schools and give poor kids more of a fair chance at succeeding, and help adults get their GED if they don't have it and get a steady job. Just simply giving people a check isn't motivating anybody, it's helping some and giving others something to exploit. But, until they come up with something better, welfare is at least some positive reinforcement for poor families.
QUOTE: "No one is dieing in the streets here or serving[starving]!"
utter nonsense, proven wrong, yet you choos to ignore those facts. that is what it means to be ignorant. people try to set you straight by informing you that there is are always homeless people dying...(hobos as some refered to them as) you refuse to believe the BLATENT truth.
QUOTE:"Anyway are you sure you are not thinking of other countrys?How can people die in the streets for no food in a place like america?
It can not happen.Are you sure you are not confuse about something else?"
homeless people die in the streets all the time. you need to understand that you are flat out wrong, bottom line. we dont even have to get into families, you say there are NO deaths in the street, no extreem poverty...its nonesense.
QUOTE: "Yes I seen a hibo [hobo] but what does that have to do with people dieing in the streets?Trying to change the subject is not going to answear your question for you!"
so you mean people dying in poverty has NOTHING TO DO with people dying in poverty. either that or homeless people are not real humans or they dont deserve to live....shit you lost me here...and yet you are proudly defiant against the objective truth:
PEOPLE DIE IN THE STREETS IN AMERICA
why cant you see that you are wrong here?
why is it that you will ignore the entirety of this post?
and being young is no exuse. spelling and grammar aside (which i dont think matter, so long as its understandable) you are stomping over a major american issue with boots shitted up with ignorance and fabricated fake-facts.
THINK of the issue, survey the facts, ACCEPT the facts, swallow your pride, accept that you were wrong in preaching false figures, and THEN and ONLY THEN will you be ready to have an educated opinion...and you will earn the respect of your peers, regardless of that opinion.
and no, i dont want to see you crushed, i want to see you THINK.
Re: Re: Re: Walfare a good thing or a bad thing?
Originally posted by Syren
I know I'm in Britain but I'm actually on what we call 'the dole' at the moment, which is Job Seeker's Allowance, £88 every two weeks. I'm living back at home and I've been searching for a good job, but they really don't just appear out of thin air. So, obviously baised, I will say it's a pretty good thing. I know that if it wasn't available my parents would subsidise me but that's not the point, I'm having a low point in my life and I don't want to rely on my parents every time I drop, y'know? And yes, I understand that it's you guys' money I'm using, but when I'm working I pay my taxes too, so I feel it's justified. Don't hate me 🥷
Oh honey, I think you misread my post. What I meant was that it's very hard these days to find a good job. I think welfare's a good thing, too. My family was on it for a while back when my parents divorced while my mom was looking for a job.
I have no idea why you are bring this up again PVS.When I can bet you have other things to do.(hint hint!)I had made a thread in the off topic section that I bet you would like to read.
It may interest you.Go read it and let me know!JM Again I exclaimed about my learning promblem to everyone.Everyone is ok with it so why are you not ok wiht it?JM
Anyway go to the off topic section!JM
learning problems have nothing to do with it JM.
the ability to get straight a's in school have nothing to do with the
ability to see a fact, and accept a fact, and not make up false facts.
im not trying to attack you as a person, but i cant help but speak up
when i see someone attack the truth. its beyond the issue of welfare
in that you wont accept that extreme poverty even exists in america.
can you AT LEAST give me that???
Actly it does because of my bad spelling and such anyway we been through this and it is done,So please do me and everyone a favor and drop it.
and please go to the off topic thread.If you don't then fine.But it wil not be the same without you!JM Look for a thread called "Who is wiling to make a bet with me!"
Name again is Jackie.If you keep calling me JM I wil not respond to you anymore!JM