Yep your right. People die in this world no matter what. Even if Kerry is President, troops will still die in Iraq dude. It's not like we for the war do not care about them dying...we do...We really care about them...now, you'd say if we do then why not bring them home...No one has been drafted. They joined the army. And yep, "ragesremorse", a lot of celeberties and people said they would leave the country if Bush was elected...and they still haven't your right...
Well lives are gonna be lost either way if he gets re-elected.
Yeah, it's somthing called war. Like hunchy says aswell, the army is still a free will enlistment structure. No matter what choices would have been made post 9/11. American lives and allies's lives would have been lost, and would still be being lost. I can almost gaurentee that Kerry will enforce a draft sometime in his presidency if elected. He says he wont, but the things he speak of on the military and troop enlistments lean incredibly twords a draft.
Originally posted by hunchy
Really, who's GWR? I think you mean GWB???"One thing if Kerry does become elected hes going to have one hell of a job cleaning up GWR's mess."
GWB is similar to that of a famous British indent, and as i'm round it alot it can become engraved in your mind.
It refers to George .W. Bush.
i owuldnt say unjust. They are fihting to free a country and stop terrorism. It may not be the best way to go about it. However, American and soldiers alike will be dieng in large numbers for years to come, because of terrorism. This would have happend sooner or later.
By willingly joining the army, you sign your rights away to the American goverment. When you sign up for the military, you are their property. I would also think, that the biggest con in weighing the pros and cons of joining the military would be taking into consideration that war can break out at any time. the risk of joining the military can mean your life.
Yeah but the soldiers should be able to trust that their government will only use their force if necessary. They are fighting to free a country that has nothing to do with us. It shouldn't be our responsibility to free the people of Iraq from a dictatorship, and if you ask me, over a thousand of our soldiers and even more Iraqi civilian lives just isn't worth it. I've said this before, I think it's a good thing they captured Saddam, I just don't think the ends justify the means.
I know what your saying and agree with you, but Americas history has or atleast should have taught us, if there is one thing you cant trust for it's honesty, it is the American goverment, and how leary we are to go to war and look at soldiers not as people,but as numbers. You have to be aware of this when you enlist. I'm not saying it's right just an acknowledgment that should be made. I also believe many soldiers are aware of this. I have lived on a military base for four years, and the people in the military, for the most part are there for trades, paying off tuition, or to protect the country. I do think that the deaths of the soldiers from the events in Iraq are justified as protecting our country. No matter what military actions would have been chosen post 9/11 we would would have had the same arguments being made. It is war and it is a war that will continue for a long time. You say the ends dont justify the means, i dont think we can say that seeing how we are still in the infancy of this war. We will have to wait and see where the future president/presidents of this country lead our nation and military.