Originally posted by RaventheOnly
And that makes you? 😐 What warrant do you have to be better then others?
i never said i was right, but just because the majority believes it doesn't make it right. That's been shown too many times throughout history.
But lets define what is right for a second
Right=positive
Right=good
Right=human right
Right=General good of humanity
Right=progressiveness
Right=The opposite of wrong/failure
If you agree with any of these terms for "what is right" then we'd be an agreement on the fact that the majority of the country was wrong in this election.
Has anyone here ever questioned the Diebolt voting system?
Do you think it was 100% trust worthy (no paper trail)?
Did you know the CEO (Walden O'Dell) of the Debolt Company is an avid Bush supporter?
Looks like Dell made good on his promise to deliver Ohio's 24 electoral votes to Bush back in June.
Side note:
Look what I found. Now I'm not saying it's true, but it does make you think about what could have happened last nite.
Originally posted by silver_tears
What about those people who did not know a war was coming?
I'm sure they were happy to be armored and sent onto the battlefield.
Who didn't? 😖 Its been 2 years... tours of duty last less then a year and everyone there right now either volunteered to stay a second tour or joined recently. 😐 I haven;t heard of a soldier requesting to be sent home. You?
Originally posted by 113
i never said i was right, but just because the majority believes it doesn't make it right. That's been shown too many times throughout history.But lets define what is right for a second
Right=positive
Right=good
Right=human right
Right=General good of humanity
Right=progressiveness
Right=The opposite of wrong/failureIf you agree with any of these terms for "what is right" then we'd be an agreement on the fact that the majority of the country was wrong in this election.
WTF did you just show me? The majority can be both a tyranny and a blessing. Considering that the majority caused slavery to be abolished, the majority put slavery into effect... it matters what point of view you are viewing from. the majority wished for civil rights.... the majority wished for many wars in our history. The majority caused us to not enter WW2 at first. Show me where hands down you can say 100% the majority is wrong all the time as you are stating, considering if you go by your own logic the majority voting for Gore was wrong and therfore they made the right decision.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Who didn't? 😖 Its been 2 years... tours of duty last less then a year and everyone there right now either volunteered to stay a second tour or joined recently. 😐 I haven;t heard of a soldier requesting to be sent home. You?
I dont know how your system works exactly, but here in Canada, if you join the forces you have your way through university or college paid for you, so some people do that to get by.....
The thing is, if you do that, you are officially enlisted in the forces in case of war, so some people have no other choice than to join the army.
I don't really think that anyone will willingly commit if they knew that they were gonna be shipped off into the war zone.
Originally posted by -=Urot=-
Has anyone here ever questioned the Diebolt voting system?Do you think it was 100% trust worthy (no paper trail)?
Did you know the CEO (Walden O'Dell) of the Debolt Company is an avid Bush supporter?
Looks like Dell made good on his promise to deliver Ohio's 24 electoral votes to Bush back in June.
Side note:
Look what I found. Now I'm not saying it's true, but it does make you think about what could have happened last nite.
GOD he won by 150,000!!!!!! in ohio and the remaining ballots where at least mathimatically speaking even, 30% his giving Bush a still strong majority. In your logic someone just faked the almost 4 million lead 🙄
Originally posted by silver_tears
I dont know how your system works exactly, but here in Canada, if you join the forces you have your way through university or college paid for you, so some people do that to get by.....The thing is, if you do that, you are officially enlisted in the forces in case of war, so some people have no other choice than to join the army.
I don't really think that anyone will willingly commit if they knew that they were gonna be shipped off into the war zone.
Here you get 30,000 to college. here you can go to college easy without service and if you sign up you make an oath to defend the country no matter what. Your life is the armies. They made the oath and knew VERY well because basic training is all about learning your duties.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
WTF did you just show me? The majority can be both a tyranny and a blessing. Considering that the majority caused slavery to be abolished, the majority put slavery into effect... it matters what point of view you are viewing from. the majority wished for civil rights.... the majority wished for many wars in our history. The majority caused us to not enter WW2 at first. Show me where hands down you can say 100% the majority is wrong all the time as you are stating, considering if you go by your own logic the majority voting for Gore was wrong and therfore they made the right decision.
I was not saying that the majority is wrong all the time...i never said that; i said many times in history the majority hasn't been right. And how was the majority that voted for Gore wrong? You'd have to show me the issues that each candidate argued for, then we could come to a conclusion on what is right and wrong. The defintion for "what is right" that i posted are qualities which generally are what the human race believes to be right. Bush and conservative republicans don't represent those qualities, and Kerry, and liberal democras do represent those qualities, and there is much evidence which supports this; and just as a side note, if you believe that the majority is always right then take a look at the world. The majority people in the world do not like Bush, and oppose his presidency.
Originally posted by MC Mike
Usually you just "Michael Moored" it. Bent the truth in your direction and made fun of your opponents as if you knew everything.
Bent truth huh? please explain how I bend truth? That would be very interesting... for what i presented 100% of the time was fact in common knowledge against "supposide website intelligence" gotten from .org sites
Originally posted by 113
I was not saying that the majority is wrong all the time...i never said that; i said many times in history the majority hasn't been right. And how was the majority that voted for Gore wrong? You'd have to show me the issues that each candidate argued for, then we could come to a conclusion on what is right and wrong. The defintion for "what is right" that i posted are qualities which generally are what the human race believes to be right. Bush and conservative republicans don't represent those qualities, and Kerry, and liberal democras do represent those qualities, and there is much evidence which supports this; and just as a side note, if you believe that the majority is always right then take a look at the world. The majority people in the world do not like Bush, and oppose his presidency.
One cannot ask the majority to define what is right for all history for it changes at any given moment, my point. No ONE single person can say anything for certain, for nothing is for certain.
Please explain what majority hates Bush? have you spoken to a single Iraqi, African, Afgan, Chinese, Russian....? So far France and Germany hate us, as if you didn't notice... they always have.
It's not right or wrong...its opinion...I didn't mean to say that they were right. I STILL think people ARE saying that if it hadn't been for this or that...Kerry would have won...people are these forums are still saying things like this and making up excuses...and don't tell me they aren't just because you aren't.
"That doesn't make them right"