😂 wow, you are funny, not considering the fact im a good bit older than you, my comebacks will never be as lame as yours. your on the same level as... oh, no, wait, your a law unto yourself when it comes to lame comebacks. but hey, its not my fault you cant put together a decent argument like the rest of us...
Originally posted by JediHDM
wow...i read the first and last page, and i did not see one republican/conservative idea on here...Why am i against Homosexuality? because the Bible says it is a sin. not because my pastor told me to think that way, not because some old guy on tv told me to think that way, because of my faith. I believe it to be a perversion of nature. And while i am against Homosexuality, i am not and will not EVER personally attack someone because of it. I am against Marriage because i believe it to be a sacred event between a man and a woman, in that we are like Christ and the Church. This is why i am against Homosexual "Marriage". Civil union, fine, benefits, whatever, but do not try to pervert the sacred union that is Marriage. (BTW, before you call me a hypocrite, i don't believe in divorce either, except when the person doing the divorcing was cheated on.)
As for calling Republicans "hypocrites" because we are always bitching about the government being too big, then wanting the government to impose things such as ban on gay marriage and the like, there is a problem with your theory. See, people that are against big government altogether are called Libertarians. and those that don't want any government are Anarchists. Republicans want big government in the way of Order vs. Freedom, in that they are willing to give up personal freedoms to achieve security and order (which is where the Patriot Act came from). Republicans also want small government in the way of Freedom vs. Equality, in that we would rather have the government allow us to live our lives than to ensure that everyone is "equal". Democrats are the opposite of this.
that was a really long post but i think i got my point across, and if i didn't, then i will get flamed, so whatever.
Thank you!!!!
Thank you for showing me that there are people out there with brains! Most people opposing me and some others are like JM.....
Maybe now we can have a sensible debate.
No you arn't a hypocrite, your views are straight forward. But you say that you are against gay marriage but for benifits and such. I must as a question. When you say marriage do you mean Christian marriage or legal marriage? Would you be opposed to a gay couple getting married in a city hall instead of a church. With a government official instead of a pastor (Or priest or whatever).
If so, Would I be correct in saying that you don't want gays in your religion? But having them getting legal marriage is ok just as long as it is completly seperate from the church?
Hey all the stuff you said does not remain me of a older kid it remains me of a younger kid.As far I know yuo could be lieing about your real age.
What prove do you have that you are older?Think of something for that while I go on topic again!If Dr Laura can help one gay person she can help alot more.
Acouse this is up to the person.But it is better to get help now before it is too late.JM
"HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN?"
True. Well, at least according to certain verses in the Bible. Three passages to be exact. However, this does not let the Fundamentalist off the hook. In each occasion where we read of God's displeasure with homosexual behavior, we also read of other displeasing behaviors that either God says he doesn't like but Fundamentalists ignore, or that Fundamentalists dislike and yet God seems to think is okay. Confused? You should be.
The most common reference against homosexuality comes from a story in Genesis. In Chapter 18 of the book, we see God about to destroy the evil twin cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. God sends two angels to warn the one godly family of the imminent demise of these cities, only to have the locals demand that these two angels, who appeared like men, come out so they could have sex with them. Of course this didn't please God very much. However, Lot, the father of this one so-called godly family, does an interesting thing. In chapter 19, verse 8, the Bible tells how Lot offered to give his virgin daughters to these men so that they might rape them instead. Is this how God wants us to protect ourselves from the "homosexual agenda," by offering to let them rape our virgin daughters? Ask that to the Fundamentalist and see how much they squirm.
Likewise, in the Old Testament Book of Leviticus, we're told it is wrong for a man to be with another man. However, within the same book we are also told that it is wrong to eat pork. If Fundamentalists use the Leviticus verses, simply ask them when was the last time they had bacon. According to the same Old Testament book that condemns the practice of homosexuality, they would also be condemned to hell for eating a BLT sandwich. However, they would not be committing sin if they still owned slaves, since Leviticus tells us such activity is okay. Think the Fundamentalists will agree with that?
Forced out of the Old Testament in their crusade against homosexuality, the Fundamentalist will quote from Romans, or more specifically from 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, both written by the Apostle Paul. He offers a list of sins that will keep a person out of Heaven. Among them is homosexual behavior. However, also listed among these is adultery. Such a revelation won't phase the Fundamentalists until you remind them that in Luke 16:18 Christ defined a man or woman who has divorced and remarried as also being an adulterer. Ask these Fundamentalists how many of their church's members have been divorced and remarried. Then ask them if their church performs the weddings for these adulterous members. If homosexuality is to be condemned, should not these fellow church goers also be condemned? Challenge these Fundamentalists to go back to their churches and apply the same rules to their adulterous remarried members as they apply to homosexuals. What? They won't do it? Why on earth, then, are they picking on homosexuals? Are they selecting one sin as being worse than another? Of course they are - and you've just called them to the carpet for it. Why are they allowed to commit some sins yet feel free to condemn someone else's?
Hey all the stuff you said does not remain me of a older kid it remains me of a younger kid.As far I know yuo could be lieing about your real age.
What prove do you have that you are older?Think of something for that while I go on topic again!If Dr Laura can help one gay person she can help alot more.
Acouse this is up to the person.But it is better to get help now before it is too late.JM
younger kid? really, since i'm not a kid at all your point is ireelevant. because you could be a 12 year old. which from your posts is a definate possiblility.
as for dr. laura, the mere suggestion that she can turn gay people straight is an insult to every gay person who has been oppressed because their sexuality, you really need to grow up and see how the world works, you really do.
and what do you mean before its too late? before they end up bigotted and ignorant like you?
For you to be with gay people be a member on this site is more of a insult then ever.No so they can be stright.It does not take brains to figure that out.But then again you don't 'have any!
Name calling is also childness.As a kid no one seen to had taught you that.JM
yeah because name calling is so horrible.
an insult to who?
i seem to have more brains than you do.
You acouse!All you are doing is insulting yourself.Also you don't seen to have much of a life since you keep going on.That I feel sorry for you.Anyway the title of this thread is Apparently Gays can reform.And it is also a thought on both sides.
So my answear is yes they can reform.All you have to say is no!Two words that is all!I hope someone as old as you can say no and stop offending them in your pitful way.
JM So far you are showing me the older someone gets the less smarter they become!