Abstract Art

Originally posted by MissesDepp?!
I think you all mean you don't like it when some bum on the street takes a chair, puts a tennis shoe on one leg, a piggie bank on the other, a hat with a question mark pinned on it on the seat then puts it on a spinning pedastal with a light show, gets a crowd of people around it going "what does it MEAN?!" and gets paid billions for it.

Below is a painting from an abstract artist "Anna Sea" it's beautiful, not crap, she deserves her money.

Abstract is good, but really fugly... STUPID abstract art is a waste of time.

That still, unfortinately does not explain to me why did he have a direct go at abstract art?

Just because something is ''shit'' it doesnt automaticly become abstract art.

Second of all, my first reply was to this thread - he was clearly questionning Abstract art - no other art, but only abstract - my point - you cant group things into two groups - stuff that lookg nice and stuff that do not look nice.

People who buy paintings which are by your standart shit, obviously like it, so therefore dont get jealous when some ''toddler'' does something and people like it and he gets the money and you dont - deal with it.

First we get someone whos obsessed with not having nudity in art, now all other art that doesnt look like any objects is shit - great.

Originally posted by BackFire
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BF, i had no idea you were an artist.
*observerves random typing with arms crossed*
its has such energy...almost takes on a life of its own.
i think it symbolises the painful anonymity of a poster on
an internet forum...a great angst which is felt by a generation
of those striving to get their point across online
...ill give you $3000 for that! 😂

anyway, dont blame the artist who shit in a can,
blame the museum curator who called it appropriate to display.
supply meets demand, so you can also blame the tasteless yuppies
who buy this stupid shit.

now, i went to artschool and i realise that art is subjective, that art is a means of expression and not acting as a human camera and simple illustrating objectively. however, i feel the pain of the creater of this thread as i have felt the sting of fine art yuppie culture.

mainstream art has become a culture of structured and refined bullshit.
its not the talent you have, the depth of your peception of the world around you, your feelings, and whatever else you use for inspiration...its just become such a load of bullshit.

to me, a true artist is one who does not need to explain their work. they should not need to say "i painted this because..."
nor should it leave everyone saying "wtf?" in a BAD way.
sometimes in art "wtf" is a good thing, but a can of shit or a blank canvas is a BAD 'wtf'

Originally posted by PVS

nor should it leave everyone saying "wtf?" in a BAD way.
sometimes in art "wtf" is a good thing, but a can of shit or a blank canvas is a BAD 'wtf'

To me, if it leaves people going ''wtf'' at the art, it has more then well done its job - it provoked the reaction, and thats what all artist want.

Something that is just there and doesnt provoke you in any way - you can argue is not art - everything else - bring it on.

no lil b.

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! 😱 is good

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?? 😠 is good

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? 😆 is good

wtf? 😐 is just crap art

imho

So basically anything that envokes a reaction based on shock value is art? So if I went to a museum, went on stage in front of a bunch of people at an art show, and killed a dog with a wrench in front of them, it would be art because it would shock the audience and envoke a reaction. Good to know.

"That still, unfortinately does not explain to me why did he have a direct go at abstract art?"

Because a piece of shit in a jar is catagorized as abstract art to the morons who classified it, so it's the easiest target for a person to single out, because it allows a piece of shit in a jar to be considered absract art.

good point BF

a reaction is easy to get, and you cant guage the value of a piece based on the intensity of that reaction.

e.g. i go to a museum and scream at people who pass me "F*** YOU!!!"
"EAT SHIT!!!!"

now, that could be a valid performance piece, and it would certainly get the biggest 'WTF's imaginable. so does that mean i have achieved greatness?

to get a reaction is not the goal of a great artist. to KEEP that reaction is the goal imho. even if the viewer say "OMFG ITS A JAR OF HUMAN FECESE!!!!" on the first pass, the next pass it would be "oh...there's that jar of shit again 😐"

he wasn't taking a shot at all abstract art FOR THE LAST F.UCKING TIME!

just the really stupid BAD abstract art, if you're point is "Art can't be bad yadda yadda" then you're right, it can't be bad, but in opinions to most it can be unbelievably stupid.

I think there was a thread about this already cause I seem to remember I talked to either finti or BF about this ...

I'll say it again: I don't like abstract art cause some just don't do effort in their work BUT there are exceptions of people that poke fun at this work and i.e. sell crap in golden boxes or a urinoir , that's hilarious

Originally posted by BackFire
So basically anything that envokes a reaction based on shock value is art? So if I went to a museum, went on stage in front of a bunch of people at an art show, and killed a dog with a wrench in front of them, it would be art because it would shock the audience and envoke a reaction. Good to know.

What the hell? Why would there be a stage in a museum filled with people killing puppies?!

It would be an art for me to kill and mutilate someone, but it doesnt mean its legal or moral.

Originally posted by BackFire
"That still, unfortinately does not explain to me why did he have a direct go at abstract art?"

Because a piece of shit in a jar is catagorized as abstract art to the morons who classified it, so it's the easiest target for a person to single out, because it allows a piece of shit in a jar to be considered absract art.

Because thats exactly what you said in the reply above.

I'd like to see any sense in abstract art. I don't. I'm not sure why people call it 'art'.

How much of the abstract art have you seen pinsleepe?

Both of my parents has degrees in the history of art. Believe me, many.

I'm sure you have seen some really bad abstract art, as have I. But I've also seen some very amazing abstract art. "La Luz De Jesus" gallery in Hollywood is full of beautiful abstract art.

Don't turn your mind off of it completely just because some of it is really moronic or bad. Don't be ignorant.

-MD

Originally posted by pinsleepe
Both of my parents has degrees in the history of art. Believe me, many.

I find that really mind numbing.

Good for you.

I mean that they both are obsessed with art. I live with them, so I used to visit galleries often.

Originally posted by pinsleepe
Good for you.

Having my own opinion and visiting a couple of abstract art galleries due to mentally unstable sister i must say, with all respect, ABSTRACT ART DOES NOT, INDEED, HAVE ANY SENSE. And for all those, who can see sense in it, please stop taking LSD, it's bad for health.

Abstract is just another word for shitty talent with no direction.

or people just don't understand it and immediatly claim out of ignorance perhaps that it is shitty

no, abstract art is just people trying to hard. You either have artistic vision or you dont. You can't pretend to.