Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by Lord Ryugen144 pages

Erm, I hate to tell you this pheonix but a few bullets can deplete the Masters shield. It was part of the fun knowing that you could be killed by pretty much any enemy quickly if you didn't keep your wits about you. Sorry but Samus' arm cannon will break the shield rather easily. And a magnum bullet won't do much to Samus' armour except scratch the paint. A rocket...yes, sustained rifle fire...yes, couple of shotgun blasts to the face...definitly but magnum fire...no. Samus has the advantage in armaments (MC can only carry two guns and some grenades,) movment (dash attack for speed and the ball to move through areas MC can't reach,) jumping (4 metres with the screw attack to turn it into a weapon) and enviroment (Gravity Suit renders her immune to lava and acid and allows her to operate submerged as she would on land). I'm not saying that MC can't win just that the evidence points to Samus.

Very True. ✅

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
As much persona as Vin Deisel?? THat was clearly an uninformed statement and therefore has no validity. Read the book, then tell me he has no persona. You wouldn't, because his personality is clearly there.

There is no reticule assistance to come clean about, so just get off it.

If MC is limited to the Halo2 universe, then Samus is limited to her arm cannon and missles. Does she weild anyother weapons in her games? Nope. If you say that Samus can pick up whatever's lying around with her free hand, than MC should have the same liberty. Which would make his arsenal nearly unlimited.

Samus has no official fiction written about her, so its unfair to take into consideration chiefs official fiction works. Therefore the book has absolutely nothing to do with this argument.. so forget that mess.

and about samus weilding other weapons, smash melee is a prime example. but like you said, if the liberty is given to MC (as it was in a previous post) then samus should have that opportunity given that she has a free hand to pick up a weapon with also.

lmao @ uninformed about the vin diesel statement.. is there anyone else besides AF that feels that Master Chief actually has a real personality (Within the halo1 and 2 universe.. not the corny book, because samus has no official fiction we cannot be creating an imbalance of information sources, at least in my opinion).

"There is no reticule assistance to come clean about, so just get off it."

Riight.. I want you to create 2 player split screen game, and strafe past the enemy.. (crosshair passing over the target), and the screen will fixate on the enemy for a moment to allow you to keep track... thats called reticule assistance.. not your leet skills.. sorry to burst your bubble 😛

you're still making stuff up.

I just tried it and there is no such reticule sticking. It passes over enemies smoothly.

There may be an option to use aim-assistance in the individual player profile...i didn't check that out.

But stock, out of the box, default user profiles have no such sticking reticule.

Can you guys just come off it about the pathetic aim assist argument? The discussion is on characters, and gameplay has no relevance.

Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
Erm, I hate to tell you this pheonix but a few bullets can deplete the Masters shield. It was part of the fun knowing that you could be killed by pretty much any enemy quickly if you didn't keep your wits about you. Sorry but Samus' arm cannon will break the shield rather easily. And a magnum bullet won't do much to Samus' armour except scratch the paint. A rocket...yes, sustained rifle fire...yes, couple of shotgun blasts to the face...definitly but magnum fire...no. Samus has the advantage in armaments (MC can only carry two guns and some grenades,) movment (dash attack for speed and the ball to move through areas MC can't reach,) jumping (4 metres with the screw attack to turn it into a weapon) and enviroment (Gravity Suit renders her immune to lava and acid and allows her to operate submerged as she would on land). I'm not saying that MC can't win just that the evidence points to Samus.

THANK YOU for being objective. THIS is the way discussions are meant to be written.

And for the two heroes' faces...

Samus: Every one of her games lets you see her face and/or suit-less body depending on how well you beat the game. In Prime and in Echoes, you can see her face through the visor, and depending on the lighting, her eyes reflecting on the visor from inside the helmet. This gives a sense that, yes, there really is a human being in that suit. That, IMO, is definitely cool.

Chief: No such endgame incentive. His visor is opaque from the outside. And no cutscenes that actually show his face. For all we know from the games (books do not count) he could be an android, or even just an automated suit.

In Halo, they say that Master Chief is mechanical with a nervous system.

He's part-human.

IN the game halo the giant plant creature actually says he is a cyborg...He is a robot but with a human brain implanted inside of him...kind of like robocop(that's just the closest thing that comes to my mind)

I stand corrected, then. But still, countless showdowns between robots and humans have shown humans to be superior. The human body is just more efficient than robotics.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
you're still making stuff up.

I just tried it and there is no such reticule sticking. It passes over enemies smoothly.

There may be an option to use aim-assistance in the individual player profile...i didn't check that out.

But stock, out of the box, default user profiles have no such sticking reticule.

its not easy to notice, but the vertical axis is delayed (not the horizontal) and it doesnt stick hardcore.. just enough for you to keep track heh I just checked it before I posted that so my statement carried double the validity. if there is an option to turn it off plz let me know, I'd definately be obliged.

When will u just give up about it.Theres no aim assistance.MY GOD!!!!!

Aim assistance = no relevance. MOVE ON, SaTsuJiN!

Samus Aran. She's been fighting a great deal longer than Master Chief and has been against some of the most diabolical brain creatures in the universe. She's sub-human. Master Chief has a lotta guts, but it takes more than guts to win a fight. More like WMD.

lol Kal.. I've moved on nearly 1 and a half pages ago..but they keep trying to throw it in my face, so they must deem the issue important

and yes Reborn, I totally agree. The chozo chose her to spread thier legacy of peace throughout the galaxies, so they wouldnt have sent her ill-prepared to duel with even the most vile of hostile life forms. Let us not forget her parents were brutally slain by the space pirates, so samus most of all understands the hardships of war, and to still have compassion after a traumatic event like that takes a strong human being.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
In Halo, they say that Master Chief is mechanical with a nervous system.

He's part-human.


Read the damned Halo novels. He's human, alright. They only reason why they called him "cyborg" is that scientists grafted stuff in his body, like ceramic layering on his skeletal structure, and capilliary boost under his eyes.. Jeez, I'll send you a couple passages from The Fall of Reach if it takes that to convince you he's human.

yes chief is a cybernetically enhanced human being.. I just wonder what they did with his junk since he cant exactly take a time out for the bathroom >_>

I never thought of that. 🤨

Could be a little hatch that opens up when he's gotta go 😄

Master Chief for sure. Who can resist the playing a character with sooooo much excitement.

I'd like to raise a point I feel has been overlooked by us all. Reloading. MC does, Samus doesn't. This puts MC in a bad posistion because reloading takes time, in Halo it takes a LOT of time. While MC's trying to change rifle cartrages Samus'll be taking potshots at his sheild.

Nope...put them both without armor, and with only a plasma pistol., nothin' else. Samus relies on technology so much, that she'll lose, easy.