Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by MuffinmanMike144 pages

Originally posted by Snoopbert
Weak-ass bullets?

Ever been shot by one? Ain't so fecking weak as you think.


I'm also not wearing a chozo powersuit.


Not to mention, plasma weapons, sniper rifles, Energy weapons (Can't absorb all of it) A lightsabre-esque Sword, Rocket's aswell. So bleh on you.

Does MC have iceskates? Or better yet, a shield that doesn't drop after a good 5, 6 shots?

Also, rockets kill MC VERY fast.
Samus has literally hundreds of rockets. And homing rockets, at that.

All ready been quashed Mike, SA rockets have a small blast radius, they are also very small compared to MC, they won't do as much damage as you think, He will most likely then not dodge quite a few of them as well.... Any Damage SA takes drains her shields constantly, MC shield recharge after a few seconds...

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
I'm also not wearing a chozo powersuit.

Does MC have iceskates? Or better yet, a shield that doesn't drop after a good 5, 6 shots?

Also, rockets kill MC VERY fast.
Samus has literally hundreds of rockets. And homing rockets, at that.

You are also assuming they are of the same power. From what I've played, Samus's missle's aren't like MC"s missile. 👆 And iceskates? Yep, you're crossing the line into fanboy, so watch your step a bit more carefully 😉

yup

Originally posted by Snoopbert
You are also assuming they are of the same power. From what I've played, Samus's missle's aren't like MC"s missile. 👆 And iceskates? Yep, you're crossing the line into fanboy, so watch your step a bit more carefully 😉

Neither one loses traction on ice, so I admit my 'iceskate' comment was a bit of a moot point.

On top of that, we can compare some of the similar feats they do. Samus has the advantage as her suit gives her powers above and beyond human ability. AT LEAST an incredibly mallable and twistable form as she demonstrates with the morphball. Increased speed(even more than allowed her suit to move at normal speed for her), incredible jumping ability, and an easy-to-upgrade arsenal as well as energy tanks that allow her to survive longer.

Don't get me wrong. It's not like I'm saying Master Chief is some 2-bit hack who can't shoot his way out of a paperbag, but Samus has him simply outclassed.

Gawd, this thread is so long...

Just wanted to add my two bits. The instruction booklet states that MC's suit moves at the speed of his thoughts. In terms of bullets, that's just about enough of an increase to think "He shot me!" as the bullet hits, as opposed to after when you're registering the impact of the blow.

Operating at the speed of thought doesn't mean "bullet time," it means a reaction increase of (generously) a few tenths of a second. If Chief were fast enough to dodge every kind of shot there is, he wouldn't need shields or a health guage, would he?

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Gawd, this thread is so long...

Just wanted to add my two bits. The instruction booklet states that MC's suit moves at the speed of his thoughts. In terms of bullets, that's just about enough of an increase to think "He shot me!" as the bullet hits, as opposed to after when you're registering the impact of the blow.

Operating at the speed of thought doesn't mean "bullet time," it means a reaction increase of (generously) a few tenths of a second. If Chief were fast enough to dodge every kind of shot there is, he wouldn't need shields or a health guage, would he?

👆 👆 .. however be prepared to be gunned to death with more book stuff.. I bet cheif is like Neo in the book world.. he's like "No..." and all the covenant get owned.. or maybe he can karate chop through a covenant battle cruiser with one strike.. oh the possibilities of freelance literature.. /sigh

INSTRUCTION booklet 🙂

"Operating at the speed of thought doesn't mean "bullet time," it means a reaction increase of (generously) a few tenths of a second. If Chief were fast enough to dodge every kind of shot there is, he wouldn't need shields or a health gauge, would he?"

Yup your right it doesn't mean that. But we don't base what we know of a char on there instruction booklet.
If you try reading my posts they might make sense. IF you just see two words and jump to conclusions then you really shouldn't be debating issues. Chief went on a few missions before he got his shields. His suit wasn't fitted with a life gauge. You know you shouldn't judge on game mechanics

".. however be prepared to be gunned to death with more book stuff.. I bet chief is like Neo in the book world.. he's like "No..." and all the covenant get owned.. or maybe he can karate chop through a covenant battle cruiser with one strike.. oh the possibilities of freelance literature."

Stop being silly satsujun. Your points got counted by a book quote, Are you gonner fear libraries for the rest of you life? gonner keep on berating me for quoting from a viable source when all you got is fan fictions? sad desperate boy, "even beasts know when to give up" Raphael SC2

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
👆 👆 .. however be prepared to be gunned to death with more book stuff.. I bet cheif is like Neo in the book world.. he's like "No..." and all the covenant get owned.. or maybe he can karate chop through a covenant battle cruiser with one strike.. oh the possibilities of freelance literature.. /sigh

You're 23, Satsujin. Start acting it.

/\/\ 23! I'm shocked I placed him about 15...

Samus would pwn MC any day of the week. Why? Samus-original highly advanced alien tech MC-stolen not-that-great alien tech, plus samus has her own space ship, and MC is just a stupid grunt following orders, I mean, the spartans can't be all that great if they were almost totally wiped out by the covenant. (and yes I have played both games)

Samus is queen and MC is her *****!

Teh black dragoness of dewm,

Chrysandine

Originally posted by Chrysandine
Samus would pwn MC any day of the week. Why? Samus-original highly advanced alien tech MC-stolen not-that-great alien tech, plus samus has her own space ship, and MC is just a stupid grunt following orders, I mean, the spartans can't be all that great if they were almost totally wiped out by the covenant. (and yes I have played both games)

Samus is queen and MC is her *****!

Teh black dragoness of dewm,

Chrysandine

And so again it begins...

I'm just gonna say Samus 6/10 again and leave.

Books or not, still canon.

Originally posted by Chrysandine
Samus would pwn MC any day of the week. Why? Samus-original highly advanced alien tech MC-stolen not-that-great alien tech, plus samus has her own space ship, and MC is just a stupid grunt following orders, I mean, the spartans can't be all that great if they were almost totally wiped out by the covenant. (and yes I have played both games)

Samus is queen and MC is her *****!

Teh black dragoness of dewm,

Chrysandine

Total post by person......1
post that actually have a point, not just praising a chars name.... 0

Originally posted by Chrysandine
Samus would pwn MC any day of the week. Why? Samus-original highly advanced alien tech MC-stolen not-that-great alien tech, plus samus has her own space ship, and MC is just a stupid grunt following orders, I mean, the spartans can't be all that great if they were almost totally wiped out by the covenant. (and yes I have played both games)

Samus is queen and MC is her *****!

Teh black dragoness of dewm,

Chrysandine


Typical noob input on the subject.

Originally posted by DarkC
Typical noob input on the subject.

It might be "typical noob input" but it's true. Very true....

Originally posted by Chrysandine
Samus would pwn MC any day of the week. Why? Samus-original highly advanced alien tech MC-stolen not-that-great alien tech, plus samus has her own space ship, and MC is just a stupid grunt following orders, I mean, the Spartans can't be all that great if they were almost totally wiped out by the covenant. (and yes I have played both games)

Ok... lets tear it apart,

"Samus-original highly advanced alien tech MC-stolen not-that-great alien tech"

Tech capable of destroying all life in the galaxy. Where have the chozo ever displayed the power to do anything like that???
MC tech is superior to SA in several ways... SA is good in others. Theres not a great void,
MC isn't chucking spears from his cave, while Omnipotent SA hovers around creating galaxies....

"plus samus has her own space ship"

Yes cause owning vehicles wins fights....

MC has control over several space ships at different points. A covenant battle ship, A human battle ship and a human space fighter(forgot its name). All have enough firepower to take down SA ship. (which I don't think even has any guns on it....)

"MC is just a stupid grunt following orders"

As I have already said. MC has a perfect genes, then his brain was upgraded... He has shown superior intellect. The man did calculus in his head..... SA was snatched by chozo when she was 5/6, she wouldn't have had much schooling in that time. She hasn't shown any intelligence over the level of a standard human.... Chozo blood doesn't upgrade intellect.....

"I mean, the Spartans can't be all that great if they were almost totally wiped out by the covenant."

Most died when the planet was glassed.... some survived. I would love to see SA survive the planet being glassed... (glassing is the term used when covenant ships all line up and sweep a planet constantly firing plasma down on it, till all is sand and water.....)

She wouldn't last too long in the world of halo anyways. There isn't any Tech she could mooch of us that would be compatible with her suit. I mean, when shes not tripping over rocks and loosing all her stuff, shes probably looking for replacement parts.....

Hmmmm Dark c was right tipical n00b post, could of done better with,
I love SA, shes hot, I want her babies.....

Tech capable of destroying all life in the galaxy. Where have the chozo ever displayed the power to do anything like that???
MC tech is superior to SA in several ways... SA is good in others. Theres not a great void,
MC isn't chucking spears from his cave, while Omnipotent SA hovers around creating galaxies....

The chozo quit that a long time ago.. they're probably one of the oldest living races in samus' galaxy.. I dont believe anyone was left alive to document their wars, nor were the chozo the bragging type.
the second statement is a dramatization which isnt really imporatant to respond to.

Yes cause owning vehicles wins fights....

MC has control over several space ships at different points. A covenant battle ship, A human battle ship and a human space fighter(forgot its name). All have enough firepower to take down SA ship. (which I don't think even has any guns on it....)

I would really like to see a battle ship hit a highly maneuverable 1-man craft thats capable of exiting orbits without any external rocket power outside its own.. that would be like trying to shoot an arrow at a pebble thats being flown by an airforce pilot.. as for weaponry aboard the craft, I wouldnt see why she wouldnt have any..

As I have already said. MC has a perfect genes, then his brain was upgraded... He has shown superior intellect. The man did calculus in his head..... SA was snatched by chozo when she was 5/6, she wouldn't have had much schooling in that time. She hasn't shown any intelligence over the level of a standard human.... Chozo blood doesn't upgrade intellect.....

Since her 'abduction'.. she has now come to being in her early 20's
as you know, normal humans can change being in a military setting for as short of a time as six months.. and why wouldnt blood change multiple aspects of her?... humans are affected on a chemical and cellular basis.. we consume caffiene, we get hyper.. we consume LSD our minds freak out, when we have some allergy medicine we get very tired, and so on... so why wouldnt the injection of chozo blood change her in ways we havent read about? So far it has given her a kindredship with her suit, with heightened musculature for maneuverability.. and with heightened musculature, comes heightened reflexes... (being athletic alone can enhance reflexes)

Most died when the planet was glassed.... some survived. I would love to see SA survive the planet being glassed... (glassing is the term used when covenant ships all line up and sweep a planet constantly firing plasma down on it, till all is sand and water.....)

She wouldn't last too long in the world of halo anyways. There isn't any Tech she could mooch of us that would be compatible with her suit. I mean, when shes not tripping over rocks and loosing all her stuff, shes probably looking for replacement parts.....

Yes, she would trust a dropship to throw her in a miniature burning capsule down to a planets surface, and have her fate decided by a bunch of marines who can barely operate earthen vehicles, let alone the dropships themselves... (ever notice they always crash, or are struck by enemy fire?..mmhmm)
the actual scenario that would take place : upon realising the planets iminent destruction, samus simply hops aboard her spacecraft and exits the planets orbit, as she's done in the past 10 games she's been in
She would last plenty long in halo.. there seems to be a fair share of idiot floods running into peoples gun barrels.. elites with cloaking that can be seen years away.. (some even have the nerve to light the sword up for even more obviousness).. then you have the marines that get themselves killed nonstop. When alls said and done, she'd have a buffet of choices for throwing the weapons in the local pawn shop
as for her "tripping over rocks" .. and stuff... I think you're a bit stuck inside that rediculous article where samus "missed" her every attempt to hit godly chief (/sarcasm).. the real fact is that the battle would take longer than you would care to sit and watch for.. and possibly result in injuries to both parties, as most of their combat prowess is enhanced purely through cybernetic technolgies

I can honestly say this would be a great, and difficult fight for both parties. Epic even.

And after reading quite a bit on Samus and her feats, and knowing all of MC's already, I still stand by my previous vote for Master Chief. He just edges her out just a bit. But that bit is enough for him to gain the victory.

Epic battle though.