Originally posted by IcePunk
Swedish bum, dont forget,Ridley can breath fire to, is that projectile? no it's not. And the prophets isnt that fast at teleporting, Ridley is fast, so he/she will just swiftly fly over to the prophet and bite his frickin' head of. And I know that Ridley is fast, have you seen when he/she flies in the scene in mp1 just before you battle he/she, well thats FAST.
The prophets are slow, they only levetate over ground, and levitation is SLOW and the same goes for theyr teleportation. So in other words Ridley ****ing wins.
It looks like you are thinking in terms of the programming of Regret's artificial intelligence from in-game. And AI can be far from real life. Do you really think it would take 25 entire punches(5 punches per boarding, 5 boardings required in legendary difficulty) from Chief's power fist to break an old Prophet's neck and kill him? No, of course not.
Okay, so we know Regret's abilities. Levitation, impenetratable shield(at least from non--melee), powerful energy beam. Bungie restricted the use of his abilities to make the game playable. It would be damn hard to impossible if Regret could use it the way he wanted it to, at will.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
her missile skills only take as long as a chargeup.. which is about 3 seconds.. the beam that expels from her cannon afterwards is nearly instantaneoushe being faster is not factual, as no numerical data exists to document samus' reaction time...
your whole attitude is basically "Oh she dont have a book, ok cheif wins"
Originally posted by DarkC
I should have put my meaning more clearly. By 'projectile', what I meant was anything that is used from a distance. fire breath, plasma, whatever.It looks like you are thinking in terms of the programming of Regret's artificial intelligence from in-game. And AI can be far from real life. Do you really think it would take 25 entire punches(5 punches per boarding, 5 boardings required in legendary difficulty) from Chief's power fist to break an old Prophet's neck and kill him? No, of course not.
Okay, so we know Regret's abilities. Levitation, impenetratable shield(at least from non--melee), powerful energy beam. Bungie restricted the use of his abilities to make the game playable. It would be damn hard to impossible if Regret could use it the way he wanted it to, at will.
That's true. I wonder if you figth Truth in Halo 3.
Originally posted by DarkC
I should have put my meaning more clearly. By 'projectile', what I meant was anything that is used from a distance. fire breath, plasma, whatever.It looks like you are thinking in terms of the programming of Regret's artificial intelligence from in-game. And AI can be far from real life. Do you really think it would take 25 entire punches(5 punches per boarding, 5 boardings required in legendary difficulty) from Chief's power fist to break an old Prophet's neck and kill him? No, of course not.
Okay, so we know Regret's abilities. Levitation, impenetratable shield(at least from non--melee), powerful energy beam. Bungie restricted the use of his abilities to make the game playable. It would be damn hard to impossible if Regret could use it the way he wanted it to, at will.
You can say the same about Ridley. In MP he was probably not as powerul as he would be. Ridley is also a great melee fighter besides being able to use a ton of weapons, I mean he has giant claws those should be able to do some damage. The prophets energy balsts would be useless anyway. Ridley only has 1 weak spot his chest, and he rarely shows it. Also the prophets shields might be able to resist plasma bolts but how about plasma beams and powerful bombs. He has never had to defend himself against that I bet. It would also take chief more than two measly weapons to drain all of SA's life bars maybe twenty would do the trick but not two.
I already said plasma and bombs. Anything relatively useable in a large chamber. Rockets, grenades too. Anyone who has beaten Halo 2 on any difficulty will know this. Have you? Right now it doesn't look like it.
Yes, I have considered both weak points, Ridley's chest and Regret's weakness for melee. However, while it is weak, you forgot one thing in terms of realism.
Ridley's chest is only a "weak point". It doesn't mean that the rest of his body is completely invincible. Also, there is a chance to whack out at the Prophet of Regret.
However, Regret still holds an advantage over Ridley in that it is a lot more difficult to catch someone and rip his head off while he has the ability to teleport at will. Ridley can cover up his chest all he likes, but I really doubt that shooting his head will have no effect whatsoever. Are the eyes completely invincible to powerful energy beams? Again, realism.
Originally posted by DarkC
I already said plasma and bombs. Anything relatively useable in a large chamber. Rockets, grenades too. Anyone who has beaten Halo 2 on any difficulty will know this. Have you? Right now it doesn't look like it.Yes, I have considered both weak points, Ridley's chest and Regret's weakness for melee. However, while it is weak, you forgot one thing in terms of realism.
Ridley's chest is only a "weak point". It doesn't mean that the rest of his body is completely invincible. Also, there is a chance to whack out at the Prophet of Regret.
However, Regret still holds an advantage over Ridley in that it is a lot more difficult to catch someone and rip his head off while he has the ability to teleport at will. Ridley can cover up his chest all he likes, but I really doubt that shooting his head will have no effect whatsoever. Are the eyes completely invincible to powerful energy beams? Again, realism.
I have beaten halo except on legendary. You don't know that the prophets shield is incincible to all weaponry. Just because it repels chiefs bullets doesn't mean that it will deflect giant energy beams or a spread of bombs. Actually the rest of ridley's body is covered in armor if it can withstand charged up plasma beams than I doubt that the prophet is going to be able to hurt it. The space pirate's remade him to be the ultimate version of Ridley. Also how long will the prophets energy shield last. It can't go on forever, the power source would have to run out or get overloaded eventually or as you would say realism. Anyways why wouldn't the prophet just teleport away and let his protectors deal with Ridley. This little scuffle probably would never occur as either of the two could just leave at any time.
Originally posted by DarkC
Wrong, Satsujin. Our attitude is that Chief has more background information, regarding the books as a major source of that info. Samus doesn't have as much, from any source. Don't bring this up again when you once argued that they did not count as background info and was proven wrong.
Erm.. you just repeated what I said.. and then said that I was wrong for saying it.. *cough*
and actually there were many people telling you both that bungie disregards the feats that happen within the book.. especially with his character discription stating that he's the all-rounder and not particularly prevalent in any 1 area... also its very rude to tell people what they can and cannot say.. learn some manners before spewing your intellect all over everyone like some drunk's vomit
Originally posted by dark99
You're calling me a fanboy because I said that no one in the covenent could defeat a metroid boss. Well tell me one that could defeat Ridley or any Metroid boss for that matter.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Erm.. you just repeated what I said.. and then said that I was wrong for saying it.. *cough*and actually there were many people telling you both that bungie disregards the feats that happen within the book.. especially with his character discription stating that he's the all-rounder and not particularly prevalent in any 1 area... also its very rude to tell people what they can and cannot say.. learn some manners before spewing your intellect all over everyone like some drunk's vomit
You said that the attitude we take is: "Chief wins because he has books and Samus doesn't".
I corrected you, by saying that Master Chief has background info on his specs and equip which happens to come from the books. It doesn't automatically make him win, like you inferred. Samus's background info comes straight from the games and some comics, but it's simply not enough to give us an completely accurate insight into her abilities and equipment in a more scientifical manner.
How is the book wrong by making Chief an all-round character? I personally don't see how that could be 'wrong'. Eric Nylund made the character of the Master Chief that way so that readers of the novel won't feel pressured to specialize in one specific area, they can branch out any way they choose. He didn't want to influence the actual players on their gaming style, more simply put.
And it's pretty hypocritical to remind someone to 'mind their manners' and right after, tell someone not to 'spew their intellect over everyone like some drunk's vomit'. Sounds pretty damn rude to me.
No, the book didnt make chief an all rounder spartan.. bungie did.. the book turned chief into something that bungie had no intention of doing.. or those feats would even have been displayed during a cinematic at the very least..
you did repeat what I just said because you're still saying samus loses due to lack of information, which is what I said many posts ago
As for manners, I just call it like I see it... you wouldnt catch me bossing people around.. regardless of whether I liked what you said or not..
In any case.. let us stick to the real discussion, shall we? 🙂
The book said he was the "luckiest" Spartan. It's not an area of expertise, really.
No, I'm not repeating...even if Samus did not have enough information and Chief does, all it does is supply information for the Chief. It doesn't make us believe he automatically wins.
You also said that the books didn't count back then. Someone went along and told you these words exactly:
"Samus has how many games now? Chief has only two. Let him have his books."
Anyways, name some other things that the books have misplaced.
Hell, I never boss people around intentionally. I simply give them options.
well I personally believe cinematics to be the games chance to show you what the character is capable of outside of you (the player's) control abilities.. for instance.. in Met Prime2:echoes, when samus faces off against dark samus in a cut sequence.. you know as the player you wouldnt be able to control her with such cinema-esque efficiency. These are the chances the developers have to use the lore to deliver the fans some very high quality confrontations... still a majority of cut scenes these days don't particularly take this into consideration
Originally posted by DarkC
No, you said the Arbiter would die, along with 'anyone else'(assuming from the Halo universe) who tried to take on Ridley(or any other Metroid boss). That offers quite a range.
I meant any Covenent it's not like a bunch of flood are going to come and help the prophet fo Regret.
I think cutsceens tend to be like candy...they look all sweet and good luring amature gamers into pretty pics and hyped up moves, so they can think "W00T I IS PLAYIN THE BEST GAME THERE IS!" then when they play the game they realise its a static shooter that requires they little skill and doesn't challenge the gamer much, other then the 1/2 hour treks across the land scape looking for some lost little door....
Halos cut sceens didn't take any game play out of the game... I didn't need to see chief dodge 100 elites and then run 45 mph so I can realise hes fast... Nor do I need any of the other 100 and 1 standard cutsceens.. Instead I saw him fall through space... Quite kick ass really...