Thing is not going to get frustrated and start making mistakes and he is not stupid either...
-Thing is a great strategist...good enough to take on the Avengers all at once and neutralize everyone but Cap.
-Thing was the leader of the FF for a few years and did so very competently
-Thing went to the same college as Peter Parker, and was trained in the Military, eventually becoming the best pilot I can name in the MU
Thing is too resourceful to simply stand around and try to muscle someone who is vastly more fast and agile than himself...he has knocked out people of the same durability as Spiderman with his thunderclaps, and can also send shockwaves through the ground to take people out from a distance.
This is a hard one to call...on paper Spiderman has some clear advantages, but expperience, strategy, and pure power fall toward Grimm...as usual, Im going with Thing.
No, it's because The thing has NO abilities.
eh...
Thing is not going to get frustrated and start making mistakes and he is not stupid either...
-Thing is a great strategist...good enough to take on the Avengers all at once and neutralize everyone but Cap.
-Thing was the leader of the FF for a few years and did so very competently
-Thing went to the same college as Peter Parker, and was trained in the Military, eventually becoming the best pilot I can name in the MUThing is too resourceful to simply stand around and try to muscle someone who is vastly more fast and agile than himself...he has knocked out people of the same durability as Spiderman with his thunderclaps, and can also send shockwaves through the ground to take people out from a distance.
i'm not saying thing would win, i'm just saying it'd be a lot closer than most people think...
Yea people who say SM would easily win r ignorant...saying Thing has no abilities is equally narrow minded and ignorant...they clearly dont understand the depth of his character or the true nature of his powers...the Thing's powers were recently a threat to the whole planet...this has never been the case for spidey...I would also like to say that when a writer depicts the Thing as easily getting defeated by a guy who stops purse snatchers, I cannot take them seriously...
again, Thing is a very efficient strategist, good enough to take out the Avengers (except Cap) and be the Leader of the Fantastic Four...and his experience vastly surpasses spidey.
who exactly are you referring to when you say a guy who stops purse snatchers? I mean i hope it isnt spiderman. If The thing fought Spidermans enemies he would get rocked. Spiderman has gone up against some of the most threatning and intelligent villians MARVEL has to offer. Thing is big, dumb and slow. The only thing the THING offers in a bout against Spiderman is brute strength. Seriously, trying to argue The thing into a victory is just over looking or blatantly dismissing reason.
Originally posted by Wynndar
again, Thing is a very efficient strategist, good enough to take out the Avengers (except Cap) and be the Leader of the Fantastic Four...and his experience vastly surpasses spidey.
And they've both been around since the early sixties, so they are roughly equally experienced (with the difference that Thing is only ONE member of the FF-comics and Spider-Man has had - multiple - series the last decades).
i dont know of alot about thing fighting enemies solo, brute strength he does have, from what i've read of him in comic books he isnt such a big strategist, thing sure isnt as dumb as everyone thinks, but he is hot-headed and i've seen him say "its clobberin' time" and then end up getting himself into trouble
but i dont know too much about things solo battles so i would have to be undecided for now
Yeah experience-wise, Thing has only had a few months extra experience, so it doesn't have any bearing in this debate. As for people who think Spider-Man would easily win, I agree that's absurd. It would be a tough fight, and in reality, Spider-Man isn't going to 'win' the fight, he's just going to subdue Thing long enough to talk sense into him. He never beat the Hulk. Hulk can't lay a finger on him because Pete's too fast, but Spidey's blows do nothing but tickle Hulk. He would have the same effect on Thing. It's just a case of Thing eventually realizing he's not going to get his hands on Spider-Man and then they talk whatever problem they're having out.
Originally posted by Capt.JK
Say that again. I just like the way it sounds...
the reason I said it is because it happened...Fantastic Four vol 3 # 27...otherwise I wouldnt say it...my arguments r based on facts, not my opinions...Thing's enemies r vastly more powerful than Spiderman's...just like I had to mention in the Thing versus wolverine thread...Thing has travelled across time, the cosmos, the negative zone, and numerous other dimensions, fighting cosmic threats on a regular basis...when u say Spiderman has fought the worst villains in Marvel, who r u refering to? Venom, the goblins, Doc Ock, Doom a couple times right? Firelord...Doom is one of the deadliest villains in Marvel, I agree, the Thing is one of the few people who has actually humbled the REAL Doctor Doom...the Fantastic four have fought Terminus, Annihilus, Galactus, Abraxis, several Celestials, Onslaught, Doctor Doom, Kang, Aron the rogue Watcher, Overmind, Klaw, Diablo, Ultron, Blastaar, Arkon, the high evolutionary, the Dark Raider, the Sphinx, Ego, Occulus, Gravitron, Ultron, Gladiator, the Skrulls, Superskrull, Paibok the power skrull, the Avengers, Hyperstorm, Ronin the Accusor, the captain britain corps, etc...
now I know my Spiderman list was short...but I can't really think of many impressive characters he's fought...I only mentioned the hard guys the FF have beat, I omitted weak guys like puppet master, moleman, and the Wizard....
So my point is, isnt it ignorant to say Spidey has faced tougher enemies?...
The thing was with the FF when they fought all the above mentioned enemies...I didnt mention any people they fought with powerman and she hulk in his place...
Thing has also fought: The Avengers (FF v3 #27) The Hulk, the Silver Surfer, the Wrecker, Sasquatch, Black Bolt, Rhino (I realize spider fought him too but he was no match for Thing), Black Bolt, Thanos, Gladiator, the Destroyer, The Beyonder, Thor, the Champion of the Universe, Hercules, the Shi'ar Imperial Guard...and more.
Spidey has faced some tough guys too...but If u try to compare Juggernaut to Abraxis or the dreaming Celestial, that would be ignorant too.