Originally posted by quanchi112
The scans. Here is a scan of Galactus preparing for the fight by feasting on a planet ripe with bse energy thereby weakening Tyrant.
Shows Tyrant gets weaker, but again, it's not similar to how Galactus was weakened. Tyrant still had plenty of time to seek out Galactus for the fight, so we don't know just how badly the energy loss affected him by the time they fought.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is Galactus trying to depower Tyrant completely. Tyrant then reverses Galactus' tactic on him.
In this instance, Galactus was drained during the fight, and he didn't have enough energy to fight back. See the difference? Of course you don't.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos with the power gem is an amp with limitless power. How don't you get that? Seeing how big of a threat Thor was becoming how can;'t you see Thanos as more of one.
So by your definition, Thanos w/Power Gem amp has limitless power. So why did he even bother re-accessing the rest of the gems against the abstracts and Celestials? He should have had plenty of power to defeat them.
Originally posted by celestialdemonGalactus was at optimum levels for this fight while Tyrant wasn't. Each time he drained a planet Tyrant grew weaker. This is what we know.
Shows Tyrant gets weaker, but again, it's not similar to how Galactus was weakened. Tyrant still had plenty of time to seek out Galactus for the fight, so we don't know just how badly the energy loss affected him by the time they fought.In this instance, Galactus was drained during the fight, and he didn't have enough energy to fight back. See the difference? Of course you don't.
Galactus was drained because Tyrant reversed his cheap tactic because he couldn't beat him straight up. This sped up the process.
Only a blind man couldn't see the fact that Galactus tried this on Tyrant to being with and Tyrant countered.
Originally posted by celestialdemonHe had infinite power which wasn't enough to defeat the abstracts. He needed the other gems to defeat them.
So by your definition, Thanos w/Power Gem amp has limitless power. So why did he even bother re-accessing the rest of the gems against the abstracts and Celestials? He should have had plenty of power to defeat them.
He doesn't need the other gems to defeat RKThor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus was at optimum levels for this fight while Tyrant wasn't. Each time he drained a planet Tyrant grew weaker. This is what we know.Galactus was drained because Tyrant reversed his cheap tactic because he couldn't beat him straight up. This sped up the process.
Only a blind man couldn't see the fact that Galactus tried this on Tyrant to being with and Tyrant countered.
Will you stop getting ahead of yourself? I don't deny Galactus tried to drain Tyrant. However, the FACT is Galactus was drained, period.
And only you think that Galactus did this because he couldn't beat Tyrant rather than what is actually written ON PANEL.
Originally posted by celestialdemonYou have no proof he can be stopped. He can amp himself to a sickening level. Look at how powerful Thor was getting.
Yet, there's no proof other than him beating up a bunch of superheroes.
Originally posted by celestialdemonGalactus was drained because he tried that tactic. He needed that to beat Tyrant. It backfired. Tyrant started the fight under optimum level while Galactus was powered up.
Will you stop getting ahead of yourself? I don't deny Galactus tried to drain Tyrant. However, the FACT is Galactus was drained, period.And only you think that Galactus did this because he couldn't beat Tyrant rather than what is actually written ON PANEL.
All we have is what we have on panel. You keep distorting it because you can;t stand the fact that Tyrant whooped him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have no proof he can be stopped. He can amp himself to a sickening level. Look at how powerful Thor was getting.
Yet Thor was stopped by a tactic that didn't contain Odin for more than a few seconds. That shows how far below in power even Thor w/PG was to Odin.
I don't have to prove he can be stopped because there has never been a single account of a power gem user NOT being stopped in some manner, and like I said, the Odinforce has FAR greater showings than anything Thanos or the PG has ever done.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus was drained because he tried that tactic. He needed that to beat Tyrant. It backfired. Tyrant started the fight under optimum level while Galactus was powered up.
It DOES NOT matter who tried the tactic. What matters is that Galactus was drained, period. If you kick someone's ass, then pull out a gun to finish them off and shoot yourself in the leg, THEN proceed to get beat down, does that mean the other person whooped you?
Originally posted by quanchi112
All we have is what we have on panel. You keep distorting it because you can;t stand the fact that Tyrant whooped him.
Funny. The comic I read actually stated why Galactus used his tech. You must have a different version of it.
Originally posted by celestialdemonYes, thor was stopped at the time. He would have broken free and been too much for their collective efforts after that. It worked On Thor, but how do you know it will work on Thanos?
Yet Thor was stopped by a tactic that didn't contain Odin for more than a few seconds. That shows how far below in power even Thor w/PG was to Odin.I don't have to prove he can be stopped because there has never been a single account of a power gem user NOT being stopped in some manner, and like I said, the Odinforce has FAR greater showings than anything Thanos or the PG has ever done.
It DOES NOT matter who tried the tactic. What matters is that Galactus was drained, period. If you kick someone's ass, then pull out a gun to finish them off and shoot yourself in the leg, THEN proceed to get beat down, does that mean the other person whooped you?
Funny. The comic I read actually stated why Galactus used his tech. You must have a different version of it.
Yes, you do. You said it has been neutralized. Once, by something Thanos created. How does Thor beat him? Odin didn't even put Thanos down yet you think he can defeat Thanos with a powerup.
Yes, it does matter. Galactus was clearly desperate. His tactic backfired. Galactus couldn't even hurt him and each blast only further powered him up. Tyrant beat the shit out of prepared, well-fed Galactus. Case closed.
Yes, Galactus used it because he couldn't hurt him with energy blasts. When this tactic backfired Galactus got owned. Hard.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, thor was stopped at the time. He would have broken free and been too much for their collective efforts after that.
If Thor would have been to much for them once he was strong enough to break free from the block, wouldn't that imply that Odin was too much for them, seeing as he was already strong enough to casually break free?
Originally posted by Silent MasterWhen he got out he would have been too much for them. It was only temporary. At the time of the shot he wasn't on Odin's level. Remember, Thor was getting stronger with each passing second.
If Thor would have been to much for them once he was strong enough to break free from the block, wouldn't that imply that Odin was too much for them, seeing as he was already strong enough to casually break free?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, thor was stopped at the time. He would have broken free and been too much for their collective efforts after that. It worked On Thor, but how do you know it will work on Thanos?
He would have broken free eventually, but the fact that Odin did almost immediately shows you how much more powerful Odin was.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, you do. You said it has been neutralized. Once, by something Thanos created. How does Thor beat him? Odin didn't even put Thanos down yet you think he can defeat Thanos with a powerup.
Thanos with this particular powerup didn't show anything other than beating some superheroes, and even then he was getting the crap beat out of him physically by a fake Thor.
Drax was neutralized several times while he had it, also.
Odin was easily winning that fight. It wasn't even a contest. Just because Thanos has a powerup doesn't mean he can now take someone he stood ZERO chance against unless you can prove what he can do with the powerup.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does matter. Galactus was clearly desperate. His tactic backfired. Galactus couldn't even hurt him and each blast only further powered him up. Tyrant beat the shit out of prepared, well-fed Galactus. Case closed.
Again, you must have a different version than I do. The version I read saw Galactus hurt Tyrant so badly that he screamed out in pain and doubted whether he should have fought Galactus or not. That same version showed Tyrant doing no damage to Galactus whatsoever until Galactus used his tech. But silly me going by what is actually written on panel instead of using your biased account of it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Galactus used it because he couldn't hurt him with energy blasts. When this tactic backfired Galactus got owned. Hard.
Hmm. I seem to remember Tyrant screaming in pain from an energy blast, THEN he absorbed it. Plus, it's not like an energy blast is the only attack a godlike being like Galactus has.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Um. Thanos Quest makes #1 pretty clear.And Thanos has wielded solely the PG before, so we know about that, too.
So, answer the questions then. What is a fully untapped PG capable of and what level of mastery does Thanos have over it? Because I have seen neither on panel.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
So, answer the questions then. What is a fully untapped PG capable of and what level of mastery does Thanos have over it? Because I have seen neither on panel.
The Power Gem 'makes all things possible,' 'enables thought to become reality,' and draws its power from infinity.
Thanos and Warlock clearly had more control over it than ANYONE else did, considering others were just about to get a strength and durability boost, but Thanos could matter and time manipulate with it, in addition to receiving one helluva strength and durability boost from it.