14 steps to Fascism... Look out for Bush's Right Hook!

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oops...edited. i got my dictators mixed up.

Karimov/Bush...so easy to confuse

Now that is what I call a good debater!Really stright forward.Good job man!JM

First of all, I wonder how a person who calls himself "FeceMan" and "The Master of Excrements", and who uses such foul language, can also call himself a Christian.

Ah, the great mystery behind my name...I see little relevance between this and my faith. And of what foul language do you speak? I said "damn".

And no, I do not have difficulty looking at the child. Such images, no matter how grotesque, do not impact me in the way that one would expect. Yes, it is a horrible thing, yes the poor child is horribly burned, yes, yes, YES it's bad. But I do not have difficulty looking upon it.

Do you see that well-dressed "gentleman" yucking it up with our illustrious president and the sec. of defense? That is Islam Karimov, president of Uzbekistan. He is a dictator and a torturer. He likes to boil people alive, pull their fingernails off, beat people, and torture them in general. But hey, he's letting us station troops in his country for the holy war on terrorism, so he's A-OK in Bush's book!

Another horrible thing. Such individuals should be executed in an extremely brutal fashion, sans trial. It is unsettling that we make such alliances, but do you think Senator Kerry would have changed anything?

Let me guess, the "social issues" that you and Dubya see eye-to-eye on are:

1. gay marriage
2. abortion
3. school prayer

Am I right?

Indeed, you are right, although I am less concerned with item number three than the other two. I tell you now that I am less concerned with the economy than I am with morals. I am certainly not 100% satisfied with the Bush administration; however, I still believe that Bush will do a better job with said social issues than Kerry would have. (Although he does need to deal with North Korea...)

What it boils down to is this--I support Bush more than Kerry. That is why I voted for him.

Something DOES need to be done about such evil people as Hussein and Karimov. Perhaps we are due for a second set of trials of Nuremberg...

In regards to the abortion issue, God has given man the ability to choose what he wants. When the government steps in and says "We are going to take that choice away from you and make it FOR you", then we have lost our freedom.

Jeremiah 22:3 "This is what the LORD says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of his oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the alien, the fatherless or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place."

I don't care if (any of) you don't believe in the Bible--this is from where I get my set of morals.

P.S. Don't throw any of that "God doesn't believe in war!" crap.

EDIT: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003746.php

Something DOES need to be done about such evil people as Hussein and Karimov. Perhaps we are due for a second set of trials of Nuremberg

Well if that's done, and most of the world thinks that Bush went into iraq for all the wrong reasons, and without global support, does that mean we can put GW on trial too?

You do realize that some of us Bush supporters support him because, well, we are...how would one say it?...MORAL people?
so its moral to support Bush, guess all the countries that couldnt care less for christianity is imoral then...what a load of BS

Something DOES need to be done about such evil people as Hussein and Karimov. Perhaps we are due for a second set of trials of Nuremberg...
hmm be careful so that Bush wont end up in that trail too

Well if that's done, and most of the world thinks that Bush went into iraq for all the wrong reasons, and without global support, does that mean we can put GW on trial too?

Nope, 'cause I don't agree with it! 😆

Just kidding. Since Bush is not a dictator who tortures people, I'm going to have to say 'no'. "We the people" elected him; "we the people" will live with him as president for another term.

so its moral to support Bush, guess all the countries that couldnt care less for christianity is imoral then...what a load of BS

My set of morals comes from the Bible. Bush more closely follows my set of morals than John Kerry does. Therefore, it is moral for me to vote for him.

My set of morals comes from the Bible. Bush more closely follows my set of morals than John Kerry does. Therefore, it is moral for me to vote for him.
to me it looks like Bush got his morals from a box of cereal

FeceMAn>” Something DOES need to be done about such evil people as Hussein and Karimov. Perhaps we are due for a second set of trials of Nuremberg...”

Well, as long as Bush&co. won’t join the International court how’s that gonna happen?

Is it moral to lie?

to me it looks like Bush got his morals from a box of cereal

Thanks for that information.

Is it moral to lie?

Nope.

Oki dok.

Another horrible thing. Such individuals should be executed in an extremely brutal fashion, sans trial. It is unsettling that we make such alliances, but do you think Senator Kerry would have changed anything?

That's difficult to answer. The reason we're in bed with Karimov is because he's letting us station troops in his country for ease of deployment to Iraq. If Kerry had been president INSTEAD of Bush from 2000-2004, I doubt that we would even be at war with Iraq. So, the odds are that we wouldn't be sleeping with Uzbekistan either.

What it boils down to is this--I support Bush more than Kerry. That is why I voted for him.

Right, you've said that before. But you fail to state WHY you support Bush, except that because he's moral. Frankly, the simple fact that you think you're both moral people and you like his societal views isn't really much of a reason to elect him to the presidency. You have to look at the big picture, and you have to decide whether his plans for America are in the best interest of EVERYONE, not just for a majority of Christians, myself included.

I tell you now that I am less concerned with the economy than I am with morals.

I'm just staggered by this statement. So, do you think that Kerry is an immoral person for wanting to put individual choice into the hands of The People? Or is it because he's Catholic? Or what? I'm sure Kerry is a pretty moral guy, as are most people in America.

On a side note, I was under the impression that Republicans were for less government intrusion into our lives. I would consider preventing somebody from deciding for himself what he can or can't do, and making that choice for him, pretty invasive.

Jeremiah 22:3 "This is what the LORD says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of his oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the alien, the fatherless or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place."

Actually, I think this scripture makes my argument for me. Look at all the innocent blood we have shed in Iraq. WE HAVE DONE THIS, OUR NATION, IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY AND GOD. We have done plenty of wrong and violence to the alien.

P.S. Don't throw any of that "God doesn't believe in war!" crap.

Of course God believes in war. At least, He did in the Old Testament. But Jesus did not. How many wars can you recall reading about in the New Testament?

Oh, and by the way, that link to "Jihad Watch", contains erroneous information. This load of BS about Bin Laden supposedly stating in his speech that any "US state" that votes for Kerry will have security started here. MEMRI is a zionist propaganda machine, and you will never find any real information there. Here is a link to a website that has a VALID interpretation of what Bin Laden said. As you can see, Bin Laden's use of the word "wilayet" in his speech refers to a "sovereign power" by definition, not a state like in America. Bin Laden absolutely did not offer an "election deal" to Americans, stating instead that America's security was not in the hands of Bush or Kerry, and that only American policies would make a difference. For more, see here.

The problem is that all the conservative blogs and websites picked it up and ran with it. And that's how you found out about it. The other problem with people like you is that you don't bother doing any real research; you just take what you see at face value and then vote based on the erroneous information. And I think that's one of the things that is very sad about Americans today.

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I'm just staggered by this statement. So, do you think that Kerry is an immoral person for wanting to put individual choice into the hands of The People? Or is it because he's Catholic? Or what? I'm sure Kerry is a pretty moral guy, as are most people in America.

It all depends on your view of what is moral and what is not, I suppose. I don't care if my reason for supporting Bush is because of his and my moral agenda--at least I have a reason other than partisanship, which is what most of the people in this country vote based on.

Of course God believes in war. At least, He did in the Old Testament. But Jesus did not. How many wars can you recall reading about in the New Testament?

THANK YOU for recognizing this. It seems that a vast majority of people do not realize this.

Oh, and by the way, that link to "Jihad Watch", contains erroneous information. This load of BS about Bin Laden supposedly stating in his speech that any "US state" that votes for Kerry will have security started here. MEMRI is a zionist propaganda machine, and you will never find any real information there. Here is a link to a website that has a VALID interpretation of what Bin Laden said. As you can see, Bin Laden's use of the word "wilayet" in his speech refers to a "sovereign power" by definition, not a state like in America. Bin Laden absolutely did not offer an "election deal" to Americans, stating instead that America's security was not in the hands of Bush or Kerry, and that only American policies would make a difference. For more, see here.

*Shrugs.* I just used what my friend said on his website, which I suppose wasn't a very good way to validate information, lol.

And I think that's one of the things that is very sad about Americans today.

*Sighs.* I think that there are a lot of things sad about Americans today...like I said, power and stupidity shouldn't go hand in hand 😛.

EDIT: My dog smells like coffee. It turns out she got into some French Vanilla. This calls for a 💃 .

This is a load of bullshit america is no wear near facist and the man that made those 14 steps is a lunatic

yes its all an illusion
nothing to see here
all your base are belong to us

_Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
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1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
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2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
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3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
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4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
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5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
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6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
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7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
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8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
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9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
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10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
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11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
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12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
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13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
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14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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From Liberty Forum
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http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

*grabs can of aresal* smells like bullshit

Politics with religion stirred in, and with added stupidity to taste, will ensure your arse will feel like it's the morning after a vindaloo.

America's arsehole is gonna be stingin', and not cos of any homosexual either!

I just have two things to say- Bush was elected to presidency; hitler wasn't elected to anything huge he just moved in and took over.

This media dealio against bush!?!?! Who controls the media right now?? It's sure not the conservatives.

The whole liberal media bias is a mth that has been proven wrong over and over again in this forum. Holy crap people get some new material.

Considering bush lied about wmd's in Iraq, pulled troops outta afghanistan before the job was done, pissed off ever ally the states ever had, destabilized the middle east even more and continually lies to his nation I think that the press has been pretty friggin easy on bush.

Yeah so I guess that the whole ordeal with Dan Rather was just a "myth" and that the pessimism and inability to report anything good that has happened in Iraq from the media is a myth also. Looks like I may have helped prove it right!
Hello!? Afganistan already had their elections!
And about this pissin of every ally; are you talking about France and Germany? The only reason they are pissed is cuz they were getting rich off of saddam and we took him out. I get so sick of libs like you guys. You just don't get it. Everyone was against reagan when he was standing up to the communists. Bush is one of the greatest presidents that this country has every had. He has brought democracy to the middle east; something so spectacular I don't see how someone could be so mad at him.