War in Iraq

Seeing how everybody is getting so worked up about the American soldiers acting as brutes, then getting distracted by 9/11, and getting reduced to name-calling now, I was just wondering:

Does anybody agree America should never have been in Iraq in the first place?

Having lived in South Africa for thirty years now, through quite a bit of the apartheid era, where we took an ex-terrorist out of jail after 27 years and made him the president, I think, if anybody on this forum is, I am one of the few people qualified to ask this question.

My opinion is pretty straight forward: I think America should never have been in Iraq, and one of the main reasons they are there is because Bush is after the oil. I think America is one of the last few bullies in the world, pretending they are the policeman of the world and hiding their greed behind a sanctimonious face. With all the money they've spent on war, they could have fed most of the people in the world several times over and done something good for once.

I dont think the wars solely for oil, this is retribution for 9/11. Yep, Dick Cheney decided bombing Iraq would be a good idea mere hours after the first plane struck. I love Dick Cheney.

But dont blame America, dont even blame their government entirely, after all Britain didnt stop them, we encouraged them. France opposed the war, and now you have to order freedom fries 😖

i blame our government.
it's not our war, but they send our army there 😖 insane.

Yeah.I blame your government too.

Originally posted by Darth Sauron
I dont think the wars solely for oil, this is retribution for 9/11. Yep, Dick Cheney decided bombing Iraq would be a good idea mere hours after the first plane struck. I love Dick Cheney.

But dont blame America, dont even blame their government entirely, after all Britain didnt stop them, we encouraged them. France opposed the war, and now you have to order freedom fries 😖

Yeah, whatever. There was no connection between Iraq and 9/11, until Bush decided to create a connection, because it was a golden excuse for him to invade Iraq and attempt to gain control over their oil.

Have you seen the footage of the public statements after 9/11? There was no, repeat, no connection between Iraq and 9/11. Osama bin Laden was in Afghanistan, as far as I know.

As for retribution for 9/11: Have you ever thought about what it was that caused 9/11 in the first place? You wanna tell me these terrorists spent all that time, money and effort in planning 9/11 for no reason whatsoever? What was it that made them so determined and comiitted in the first place? What was it that drove them so far over the edge that they killed all those people?

Maybe the fact that America, under their "God is on our side" leadership feel the need to stick their noses into every other country's business in the first place.

That's spoken.

Originally posted by Jodo kast
Yeah.I blame your government too.

I do, but i can't say i blame my government, because i'm Belgian.And belgium has always been against the war in Iraq.

Just a thought from Bill Hicks, one of the most brilliant social commentators who ever lived:

"I'm so sick of arming the world, then sending troops over to destroy the ****ing arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries, then we go and blow the shit out of them. We're like the bullies of the world, y'know. We're like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheepherder's feet.
"Pick it up."
"I don't wanna pick it up, Mister, you'll shoot me."
"Pick up the gun."
"Mister, I don't want no trouble. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don't even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain't looking for no trouble, Mister."
"Pick up the gun."
(He picks it up. Three shots ring out.)
"You all saw him - he had a gun."

Yeah, they had weapons of mass destruction, alright

That is so right.

Originally posted by Jodo kast
I do, but i can't say i blame my government, because i'm Belgian.And belgium has always been against the war in Iraq.

Originally posted by Jodo kast
I do, but i can't say i blame my government, because i'm Belgian.And belgium has always been against the war in Iraq.

What's the problem with me being Belgian?

i think no prob.

😂

anyway,the war is wrong ,every war is.

Helemaal niks. Ik merk nu enkel pas dat we er opnieuw een Belg bijhebben alhoewel je toch al een tijdje hier bent. Maar niet verwonderlijk, je hebt het merendeel in de Star Wars section uitgehangen 😉

Dat is waar, het is waarschijnlijk de eerste keer dat ik hier post.(in dit forum)

I agree with all things said above the war in Iraq is nothing more than a facade of "lets go stop the terrorists" which you say lets go steal the oil!.
You guys should not blame your government I blame the United States only if G.W. hadnt decalared war and congress aproved it your nations wouldnt even be in this mess. After all the U.S does lead the world as leading superpower.

I don't think we should have invaded Iraq. I think they were just the easiest target to take out when we couldn't get the real threat - Osama Binladin.

The one thing I don't understand is how the so-called "superpowers" of the world are allowed Weapons of Mass Destruction when other countries are evidently not allowed to have them. How does America have the right to determine who is not allowed chemical and biological weapons, cruise missiles and nuclear bombs. Surely anyone with a brain can see that America already has their own arsenal of nasties. That they would readily employ to use if there's a shortage of oil, George Bush is still in control (I say "in control" but you know what I mean) and there's still a Middle-Eastern country left standing.