Originally posted by Bardock42
No, actually it just needs a whole new structure.You say you "hate the fact" and then that they "should not be voting". Doesn't work together. The point is taken though.
I see your point.
Thank you for helping me correct a sentence that I typed up in 7 seconds...it really helped me become a better person and poster.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I know...it is really too abstract of a concept to really test on.I just hate the fact that a person who thinks Saddam Hussein is still alive and Bush is saving America from Saddam Hussein's terrorism should not be voting.
dadude, I hear you, i really do, but I have to go with the other guys here.
Listen to Christopher Hitchens speak about Iraq and the middle east. He is, imho, the only credible intellectual who can reasonably justify the war on Iraq. The idea that he wouldn't be allowed to vote because he thinks Saddam was involved with Al Qaeda (again, don't prejudge, look him up on youtube) is tyrannical.
Any type of test does restrict political discourse 🙁 Its the catch 22, we are free but totally unable to live with it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
innocent
whistling
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lol, probably not my type 😉
Originally posted by inimalist
http://www.myspace.com/81633090lol, probably not my type 😉
Ummm, yeah...
Originally posted by KingTechIgnorant.
I think voting in elections is not a child's play .18 years is a right decision . 18 years old are grown ups and have views on politics.They can easily understand the needs of the country.
I think 16 is a good idea, all it changes is the number of votes. Then again, at 16 you haven't experienced life that much, but hardly any different than 18.
Except maybe, you know, work.
Democracy is for morons. There's three people, and two decide to rape you in the butthole.
That's democracy. Hardly justice.
My girlfriend believes in theocracy. She thinks we should be like Rome is with Catholiscm but instead with Judaism. She's very pissed at alot of liberals daring to call themselves jews.
I'm an old fashioned anarchist. I don't believe in capitalism or rules. More like the wild west. I believe in people working in the isolation of thier farms ontop of moutains. Any sortof social gathering will and should endup in bloodshed.
I believe in a socialist liberal society, except, when someone is against human rights* or is being anti-social**, they should be educated and changed into being social, and if that doesn't work, kill them***.
*violence and terrorism is against human rights (I think) which is the kind of thing I'm refferring to
**Not contributing to the society
***joke
As for democracy, I think it's good, as long as there are experts to check if it's okay. Kinda like the UK's parlimantary system.
Originally posted by lord xyzI changed my mind. 18 seems reasonable.
I believe in a socialist liberal society, except, when someone is against human rights* or is being anti-social**, they should be educated and changed into being social, and if that doesn't work, kill them***.*violence and terrorism is against human rights (I think) which is the kind of thing I'm refferring to
**Not contributing to the society
***jokeAs for democracy, I think it's good, as long as there are experts to check if it's okay. Kinda like the UK's parlimantary system.
Originally posted by Captain King
I'm an old fashioned anarchist. I don't believe in capitalism or rules. More like the wild west. I believe in people working in the isolation of thier farms ontop of moutains. Any sortof social gathering will and should endup in bloodshed.
I agree with you in a moral sort of way, but lets not puff up our chests too much, anyone sitting on the internet arguing about this kind of thing might not really want to give up the amenities that a modern technological society brings.
Besides, if preventing bloodshed is what you want, I think you may have a little misinterpretation of how "peaceful" the wild west was.
Originally posted by lord xyz
I believe in a socialist liberal society, except, when someone is against human rights* or is being anti-social**, they should be educated and changed into being social, and if that doesn't work, kill them***.*violence and terrorism is against human rights (I think) which is the kind of thing I'm refferring to
**Not contributing to the society
***jokeAs for democracy, I think it's good, as long as there are experts to check if it's okay. Kinda like the UK's parlimantary system.
Complete rubbish. A man does not owe his production to the state.
Originally posted by lord xyz
I believe in a socialist liberal society, except, when someone is against human rights* or is being anti-social**, they should be educated and changed into being social, and if that doesn't work, kill them***.*violence and terrorism is against human rights (I think) which is the kind of thing I'm refferring to
**Not contributing to the society
***jokeAs for democracy, I think it's good, as long as there are experts to check if it's okay. Kinda like the UK's parlimantary system.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I changed my mind. 18 seems reasonable.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You know that is opinion and that is not true from everyone's perspective.Here is another question for you....
Does a man owe some of his production to the state?
yes, but I am confident enough in my opinions to not need them qualified as such
and no. I am not born with some debt to society or civilization. My work is my own and I should be free to do whatever I wish with the fruits of my labor.
Does that necessarily work with 100% purity in a modern society, no, but the pragmatic taxation and what have you that I would propose is in stark contrast to the idea that I, as an individual, owe you or anyone else anything simply because we were born within the same geographical area that constitutes a nation.
Originally posted by inimalist
[B]Besides, if preventing bloodshed is what you want, I think you may have a little misinterpretation of how "peaceful" the wild west was.
Therefore, we need as much bloodshed as possible.
Make this world like one big middle-eastern region.