Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I get my information from my teachers at school.This is not of my information.Just so you know.JM
It's hardly fair to blame your teacher for your own ignorance.
You've got internet connection, haven't you? and as they say the information is just a click away.
don't you think forming your opinions when you hardly know a thing about it like that is a bit dangerous?
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I didn't know that Stardust. To tell you the truth I haven't done any research on this issue I thought they used aborted fetuses because of that episode on South Park. So then why all the fuss if they don't use aborted fetuses?
I couldn't tell you why there's such a fuss...
And South Park isn't that great a source for info, my friend...😂
I think the biggest issue is the results of stem cell research. Republican big wigs get a ton of money from the insurance and medical industries. I think god and morals have less to do with it than losing money by curing diseases. Look at it this way: Is there more money to be made by treating a diseased liver for ten years, or just grow a new liver and surgically implant it?
Whenever you hear a politician imply that god has something to do with a descision, just follow the money trail to the real reason.
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Yet knowledge is one thing you have not got that I have Arach!Please keep that in mind while reading my posts.Lucky for me I would not have to read your posts however.JM
Sweet! I made the list! Don't worry about your ignorance JM, you just keep that self-reassuring bubble up so the truth never gets to you.
This article appeared in a papre here yesterday, and is quite interesting, especially if true, as it shows the potential impotance of stem cells in the future of medical science:
"Paralyzed Woman Walks - A South Korean woman paralyzed for 20 years has regained limited walking capabilities after her spine was repaired using stem cell derived from umbilical cord blood, scientists say. Hwang Mi-Soon, 37, had been bedridden since an accident two decades ago but last week she walked again, with the help of a walking frame, at a press conference where South Korean researchers went public for the first time with the results of their advanced stem-cell therapy. They said it was the world's first published case in which a patient with spinal cord injuries had been successfully treated with stem cells from umbilical cord blood.
While they cautioned that more research was needed and verification from international experts was required, the South Korean researchers said Ms Hwang's case could signal a leap forward in the treatment of spinal cord injuries. The use of stem cells from cord blood could also point to a way to sidestep the ethical dispute over the controversial use of embryos in embryonic stem-cell research. "We have glimpsed at a silver lining over the horizon," said Song Chang-Hoon, a member of the research team and a professor at Chosun University's medical school in the southwestern city of Kwangju. "We were all surprised at the fast improvements in the patient."
Under television lights and flashing cameras, Ms Hwang stood up from her wheelchair and shuffled forwards and back a few paces with the help of the frame. "This is already a miracle for me," she said. "I never dreamed of getting to my feet again." Research has stem cells can develop into replacement cells for damaged body parts. Unlocking that potential could see cures for diseases that are at present incurable, or even see the body generate new organs to replace damaged or failing ones.
So-called "multi-potent" stem cells - those found in cord blood - are capable of forming a limited number of specialized cell types, unlike the more versatile "undifferentiated" cells that are derived from embryos. But stem cells from umbilical cord blood have emerged as a relatively ethical and safe alternative to embryonic stem cells. Additionally, umbilical stem cells trigger little immune response in the recipient while embryonic stem cells have had the tendency to form tumors when injected into animals. As a result clinical trials with embryonic stem cells are believed to be years away because of the risks and ethical problems involved in the production of embryos for scientific use.
For the therapy, multipotent stem cells were isolated from umbilical cord blood, which had been frozen immediately after the birth of a baby and cultured for a period of time. These cells were then directly injected to the damaged part of the spinal cord.”
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I get my information from my teachers at school.This is not of my information.Just so you know.JM
Sorry, I just had to take a shot at this....
So I'm assuming you live in Tennesee? 😆 I'm assuming you dont understand that...but its still funny to me.
As for your other comments, I swear someone should kill you......I'd do the people around you a lot of good.....JM, you didnt answer the question of pr1983. Ifthe only way someone you oved deeply could survive was through stem cells, then would you just let them die, simply because an already dead fetus would have to have its stem cells removed? They dont cut the so-called "baby" up, they juststick it with a needle and withdraw the cells. That easy.
Your ignorance, and your stupidity, will never cease to amaze me.....
By the way, have I made your list? I do hope so.....Would that mean you would never come into topics that I'm already in? What sweet bliss...
No, It will cause too many problems.
And let me explain to you why.
You see, liberals have the philosophy "kill the rich". Those damn rich people, they got it easy while the rest of us have to work our asses off just to put food on the table. Well guess who will bennefit most from stem-cells?
The rich.
While the rich get new organs, cures for what ails them, and many other perks. You and me get jack SHIT. Because we're "the poor" and the goverment could give monkey cum about "the poor". So you know what will happen next?
Back ally stem-cells.
Because we couldn't afford the real thing, we'll seek cures elsewhere. Getting cloned cells from an unrealiable source. The microbes might be unstable and leave us worst off then when we went in. Sounds alot like why you don't want to ban abortion hmm?
Oh but you're looking out for me and sticking it to the fatcats right?
Give it up conservatives, we're not going backward.
But liberals, we DO NOT have to go foward.
Live in the now, and giveup this stupid idea of stem-cells helping anyone but those ontop. Unless you want life to suck that much more..
Originally posted by Big Evil
[b]No, It will cause too many problems.And let me explain to you why.
You see, liberals have the philosophy "kill the rich". Those damn rich people, they got it easy while the rest of us have to work our asses off just to put food on the table. Well guess who will bennefit most from stem-cells?
The rich.
While the rich get new organs, cures for what ails them, and many other perks. You and me get jack SHIT. Because we're "the poor" and the goverment could give monkey cum about "the poor". So you know what will happen next?
Back ally stem-cells.
Because we couldn't afford the real thing, we'll seek cures elsewhere. Getting cloned cells from an unrealiable source. The microbes might be unstable and leave us worst off then when we went in. Sounds alot like why you don't want to ban abortion hmm?
Oh but you're looking out for me and sticking it to the fatcats right?
Give it up conservatives, we're not going backward.
But liberals, we DO NOT have to go foward.Live in the now, and giveup this stupid idea of stem-cells helping anyone but those ontop. Unless you want life to suck that much more.. [/B]
Well...I'm rich. So I'm still down w/ it.
I love searches. Look, it's an old/new can of worms! Which ironically is stated in my post in the abortion thread and the very first post here. And also ironically, the person who told me to start a stem cell research thread also posted here.
So, morally acceptable? Wrong to 'play god'?
I think if you can get working stem cells, use them. If you get them from an umbillical cord, or an adult, or even an aborted fetus.
The thing I wouldn't like is women abusing it and getting pregnant just to get paid for giving up their aborted fetus. That's just plain lazy and an abuse of the right to have an abortion, yet if there isn't a way to prevent it, it's still not a reason to ban either abortion or stem cells. A woman can only have so many abortions before her body gives in, its not a very safe procedure.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I love searches. Look, it's an old/new can of worms! Which ironically is stated in my post in the abortion thread and the very first post here. And also ironically, the person who told me to start a stem cell research thread also posted here.
It's not ironic. It's a coincidence. And I didn't tell you to start one, I said if you felt so strongly about it that you could start one. Ironically, you've posted here as well. Neither of us remembered the thread.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
The thing I wouldn't like is women abusing it and getting pregnant just to get paid for giving up their aborted fetus.
I don't think that would be a problem. If women didn't have to pay for abortions and medical companies were actually paying for stem cells, then there might be a problem.