Originally posted by Capt_FantasticI don't think that would be a problem. If women didn't have to pay for abortions and medical companies were actually paying for stem cells, then there might be a problem.
Well my logic came from that women get paid for eggs and men get paid for sperm. Basically you just put those together to get stem cells, so I naturally thought someone would be paying for them.
I look at it like this, there is always going to be abortions, and despite how much that sickens me, if we can atleast make good use out of those dead babies, then perhaps I can tolerate it enough to the point where I don't push someone down a fleight of a stairs who's pro-choice if given half the chance. (Luckiely for them, I don't..)
I am against embryonic stem cell research. Adult stem cells are fine, but those embyros are potential human life, and should not be treated like garbage just because scientists have this big idea that stem cells could save peoples lives.
Maybe it could help people, I don't know, but how many potential human beings will have to be destroyed before ONE person feels the benifits?
Scientists can't even find a cure for the common cold, so how they think stem cells will cure disease I don't have a clue.
Originally posted by Makedde
I am against embryonic stem cell research. Adult stem cells are fine, but those embyros are potential human life, and should not be treated like garbage just because scientists have this big idea that stem cells could save peoples lives.
Medical and scientific research should not be inhibited because people with a culture of life worldview believe that a single cell is entitled to the same rights as an actual person.
Originally posted by Makedde
Maybe it could help people, I don't know, but how many potential human beings will have to be destroyed before ONE person feels the benifits?Scientists can't even find a cure for the common cold, so how they think stem cells will cure disease I don't have a clue.
Perhaps you should get a clue before you form an opinion.
Originally posted by Makedde
I don't have a clue.
That's usually the problem with people against stem cell research.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200411/kt2004112617575710440.htm
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Medical and scientific research should not be inhibited because people with a culture of life worldview believe that a single cell is entitled to the same rights as an actual person.
It is not a cell, it is an embryo. There is a difference. You say this research should not be inhibited because people think a 'cell' is entitled to the same rights as a human being. Well, this research should also not go ahead just because people out there think that an embryo isn't deserving of respect.
It's noce that people could be helped with this, but not at the expense of potential human life. Try something else, and use embyros as a last resort.
Stem cell research makes me nervous. Its nothing like abortions (I realize many people already understand this,) in the fact that govts don't really care about abortions thye don't really gain from them. Stem Cell research offers alot to be gained which means things will be happening behind closed doors ethics be damned..
I see stem cell research similar to the atom bomb. The bomb was the result of splitting atoms which really the scientists didn't want in that bomb. Stem cell research same thing people will expect one outcome and get blindsided with a manipulated version in the backend.
Stem cell breakthrough may eliminate ethics debate
...heavy emphasis on "may", but still newsworthy imo
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19067616/
NEW YORK - In a leap forward for stem cell research, three independent teams of scientists reported Wednesday that they have produced the equivalent of embryonic stem cells in mice using skin cells without the controversial destruction of embryos.If the same could be done with human skin cells — a big if — the procedure could lead to breakthrough medical treatments without the contentious ethical and political debates surrounding the use of embryos.
Experts were impressed by the achievement.
“I think it’s one of the most exciting things that has come out about embryonic stem cells, period,” said researcher Dr. Asa Abeliovich of Columbia University in New York, who didn’t participate in the work. “It’s very convincing that it’s real.”
'A long way to go'
But he and others cautioned that it will take further study to see whether this scientific advance can be harnessed for creating new human therapies. For one thing, the procedure used to get the mouse skin cells to mimic embryonic stem cells wouldn’t be suitable. And it’s simply not known whether the mouse results can be reproduced with human cells.Marius Wernig / The Whitehead Institite via AP
Scientists reprogram mouse fibroblasts, seen here, so they appear identical to embryonic stem cells, avoiding the use of embryos altogether.
“We have a long way to go,” said John Gearhart of Johns Hopkins University, a stem cell researcher who also wasn’t involved in the new work.In any case, scientists said, the advance does not mean that research that involves getting stem cells from human embryos should now be abandoned. “We simply don’t know which approach ... will work the best,” said researcher Konrad Hochedlinger of the Harvard Stem Cell Institute, who led one of the three teams.
Embryonic stem cells are prized because they can develop into all types of tissue. So experts believe they might be used for transplant therapies in people who are paralyzed or have illnesses ranging from diabetes to Parkinson’s disease.
To harvest human embryonic stem cells, embryos must be destroyed, an action many people oppose.
Scientists have long hoped to find a way to reprogram ordinary body cells to act like stem cells, avoiding the use of embryos altogether. The new mouse studies seem to have accomplished that. Past experiments seeking alternative routes to getting stem cells have generally involved tampering with an embryo or egg.
At a press conference Wednesday, Hochedlinger and a member of a second team said their work was not an attempt to evade the ethical objections to embryo destruction. Instead, they said, the goal was to learn how cell reprogramming works.
But in a telephone interview, a prominent critic of embryonic stem cell research welcomed the new work on ethical terms.
“This is what we were looking for people to explore because it may provide all the advantages of embryonic stem cells without the moral problem,” said Richard Doerflinger, deputy director of pro-life activities for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. “So I’m very encouraged.”
Hochedlinger and colleagues present their work in the inaugural issue of the journal Cell Stem Cell. (The first word in the journal’s name refers to its publisher, Cell Press).
Re: Stem cell breakthrough may eliminate ethics debate
Originally posted by Schecter
...heavy emphasis on "may", but still newsworthy imo
The embryos that are used in embryonic stem cell research are going to be destroyed whether they are harvested for stem cells or not.
With this in mind, researching ways to make adult stem cells act like embryonic stem cells is a waste of time.
I am all for stem cell research. I personally have been talking to a girl who was in a car accident a little over a year ago. She's now a quadriplegic and cannot move anything below her neck. She's currently having benefits to raise 50 grand to fly to Portugal for stem cell surgery by a man named Dr. Carlos Lima. The procedure uses stem cells from inside your own body therefore eliminating the need to kill an embryo. Anyways with the killing of embryo's taken out, what reason is there for this procedure to not be morally acceptable? I have researched this man and his patient's results.....many people have regained movement, sensation, and some even have the ability to walk again ! Stem cells are an amazing thing and i find them more than morally acceptable to use. If you want more information on this procedure you can google Dr. Carlos Lima's work .....
Originally posted by axiom
I am all for stem cell research. I personally have been talking to a girl who was in a car accident a little over a year ago. She's now a quadriplegic and cannot move anything below her neck. She's currently having benefits to raise 50 grand to fly to Portugal for stem cell surgery by a man named Dr. Carlos Lima. The procedure uses stem cells from inside your own body therefore eliminating the need to kill an embryo. Anyways with the killing of embryo's taken out, what reason is there for this procedure to not be morally acceptable? I have researched this man and his patient's results.....many people have regained movement, sensation, and some even have the ability to walk again ! Stem cells are an amazing thing and i find them more than morally acceptable to use. If you want more information on this procedure you can google Dr. Carlos Lima's work .....
If it is as easy to do Stem Cell Work without creating embryos, that should be used, so the ethical line of life value is not crossed. Or else everyone is just a science experiment.