Can U believe this: Texas Woman cuts off her babies arms

Rex's list...
Don't remember doing a single NASTY thing to him...

Interesting. Can you be both delusional and a Christian? If you perceive only a varient, illogical image of the world, does this mean that you are also unable to conceptualize God in a valid way? Does insanity invalidate fervent faith in God?

Killing innocent children sounds like a nutcase to me, not a christain.

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Ragesremorse: takes balls to cut a baby's arms off, hmm how does that take balls?? Takes being nut case sounds to me like, or living in Texas J/k

Arachnoidfreak, you are right, it's not unbelievable, it is happening more and more in the world today. But it sure does freak me out every time I here about it. Its nuts, crazy!!!!

Just because someone says they are a Christian, does not mean they are, you can tell by someone's actions, attitude. I can tell you that I'm BLACK all I want, does it mean I am Black?? NO, you can tell by looking at me that I'm not, same as with a Christian, you can tell if someone if the real thing or not. How in the world this got into that, just cuz of the song that was playing in the back ground, and other nut case things that have involved someone proclaiming to be a Christian yet drowning, killing their kids...doesn't mean they are a Christian.
The lady sounds like a nut case to me.

according to the bible, your actions and attitude will tell if you are a christain or not. Just cuz someoe say they are, doesn't mean they are. Ok, I get what you are saying about me saying i'm black, bad example.

Yeah the Bible says your Christian witness should show in your actions. How could you be a true Christian if you cut your baby's arms off? You're not, because if you were a true Christian, you'd follow what the Bible says.

Yes, however, people suffer from mental illness/psychosis in which they KNOW they are doing the best/only thing.

Yeah, that too.

What does religion have to do with postpardem depression?

The woman is clearly insane.
I've heard the 911 tapes, she's was in a total trance.

She wont be executed. She'll spend the rest of her life in a mental institution.

I didn't say she was a saint, but religion is a matter of faith and belief, not behavior. It doesn't matter how much Christianity disagrees with her actions, if she believed in Christian philosophies and worshipped a Christian God, she is a Christian. Now she did not abide by Christianity's rule and obviously Christianity doesn't agree with her actions. But that doesn't matter.. all that matters in determining whether or not somebody is Christian is whether or not they worship a Christian God.

Example: Muslim extremists who terrorize people and blow up building's are still Muslims, whether they abide by Islam's rules or not. Islam is supposed to be a peaceful religion yet they kill in the name of Allah. Well, that's stupid of them but they are still Muslims because they still worship Allah.

I am by no means saying there is any connection between this woman's faith and her actions. You can't blame Christianity for her own sick actions. But when it comes down to it, anyone who worships a Christian God is Christian whether Christianity agrees with their actions or not.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
religion is a matter of faith and belief, not behavior.

I agree with Tex (except that I think she's just as likely to end up in our penal system, with Yates), and I agree with AC.
You are Christian if you believe in Christian values, even if you sin or do massive harm while insane (which is possibly an absence of free will?).

I disagree. True Christianity expects a certain behavior in it's follower's, and those who don't abide with "go to hell," but in the long run the only factor that decides what religion you are is where you faith lands. If you have faith in God and believe in the teachings of Jesus you are a Christian, if you do not believe a god exists you are an Atheist. If the woman who committed the crime was in fact an Atheist you wouldn't see me saying "but she's not a real Atheist because we don't believe in that!"

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Woman Charged With Killing Baby in Texas

Tuesday November 23, 2004 4:16 AM

Hey, I heard a similar case on the news, about some surgeon who had a really good reputation, and one of his patients needed an operation for his penis. This surgeon had a slight moment of insanity, and he cut it off completely😐
They showed this sh*t like 100 times on the news 😬

What's wrong with these people ???

Yes, it's scary how a slight moment can have some major repercussions- however, somebody may not have been paying attention. It's hard to believe that he showed no signs.

You know whats weird?
Usually, suring surgery, surgeons have assistants and nurses 😐
So, how could such a thing happen?

and once again a thread gets derailed with talk of religion 😖

I'd like people to understand that she can be both insane and a Christian, both insane and a moral person, both insane and a human being...
I don't want people to have an effortless time dismissing her as "evil" and not a member of humanity, a fellow person to whom we are responsible.

um.. why does this have to be related to religion 😬?
Being insane doesn't necerairly mean you're evil 😐. Insane ppl think what they do is right.
By the way, was she high or something?

Honestly, that's the most ignorant, narrow-minded thing I've ever seen you post.

Thank you, Mane, as I was about to respond in a not-as-kind manner. And, Fever Red, thank you for pointing out a central concept in psychology:

CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.

Dont turn this thread into a religious thread, please we already have 1,000,000 of them