Can U believe this: Texas Woman cuts off her babies arms

Started by Jackie Malfoy14 pages

How do you know that it does not feel the same thing?You don't know that.Anyway if you wnat to talk to me about it please met me at the abortion part of this site.JM

Yes, it does sound like the father knew his wife was entering or had entered a psychotic state. He may have been hoping to address/handle this himself with the help of extended family.
They were Christians.
Both are aspects that echo the same factors in the Yates case. Yates' husband knew his wife was struggling. He had thought that it was best not to involve the system/relinquish her care to the system.
Again, I feel that such decisions are informed in part by over-reliance on a family/community support network, and because the Christian community invests so heavily in such a network, Christians are slightly more vulnerable to these tragedies.
That is the way in which I feel religion is relevant to the discussion.
However, secular humanist families certainly do make the same misjudgements.
Am I "disapointed" by the actions of this husband or Yates' husband? I'm certainly sad and regretful. So is Yates' husband. He has been nothing but supportive of his wife, and critical of himself. He now tries to raise awareness of mental health issues in his community. I think that's a wonderful thing to have come of a horrible thing- but I'm sure we ALL wish the horror had not occurred.
For healing and for a positive effect in others' lives, I hope this woman's husband also goes on to advance appropriate handling of mental health.

Originally posted by fever red
More to the point, let's all give a round of applause to our ineffective public mental health system, and the hapless, clueless performance of most laypeople in response to mental illness. Without these factors, how would the lives of insane people amount to being newsworthy?

Excellent point. Hooray for the general treatment of the mentally ill!

Excellent point. Hooray for the general treatment of the mentally ill!

Lol. The one thing I'm worried about with this is that soon EVERYONE who does something will be classified as having a mental disorder. Since, you know, all people are basically good, anyone who would do something not good must have something wrong in the head. I didn't kill him, my [insert scientific-sounding made-up name of psychological disorder here] did!

M'eh, won't happen. They put YATES in the penal system. Heh, hehhh. We won't reliquish scapegoating anytime soon.
Besides, psychosis is much more, ah, profound than just any "disorder."
Psychosis is something Kasady hasn't got. Except for the red paint incident. That was psychosis.

There actually was (is?) an institution that had this philosophy. I can't remember exactly where, but it was in the book The God of Stones and Spiders (another fantastic read, by the way). A guy convicted of rape was to be "rehabilitated" by taking a woman employee to a movie.

They got halfway to the movie before he battered and killed her.

__It's an upsetting idea, and there ARE some laypeople and a few mental health professionals in our society who advocate that kind of approach to sexual predators- but a lot of that is, IMO, financially motivated. (private treatment is for-profit)
__Overall, we're unmoved by even the most extreme cases of mental illness, involving delusional states. We scapegoat the psychotic. Ironically, people whose mental illness is less pronounced, and whose crimes are often less "unthinkable" in our eyes, seem to get a closer, less reactive look.
__M'eh. Let's go drink more coffee. It tastes good, and it keeps you moving so fast that you register much less.

Nothing that happens in America shocks me. If it happened anywhere else in the world I'd be shocked.

Craziest country in the world.

We're catching up on the quality of our coffee, however.

I already heard this story

Fever Red, have you read a different article on this case that states they were christians? If so, could you plz post it here, because in the article I read it never said they were a christain family. The father must have wanted to involve someone for him to ask them to call h is wife, he must have had some concern to do that.

Can U beleive this: Texas Woman cuts off her babies arms

Well Yes i believe it knowing how daft some of the Americans are.

A woman sued a microwave company because her baby died while she was trying to dry it. she won the the case because the instructions did not specify what she should not put inside the microwave.

People can be so crazy and the lawyers that defend these cases, are just as bad.

If I cut my daughters arms off Id eat them.

Why?

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
People can be so crazy and the lawyers that defend these cases, are just as bad.

Dont get me started on lawyers; knowing that a person has done wrong means nothing to them. True, everyone has a right to be defended, but defending someone who is really guilty of their crime or even trying to lessen their sentence is like spitting in the face of the law and saying **** u i get paid loads ! especially defending those child rapists, abusive priests , and woman battery. Give them a fair trial my ass ! stone them to death for being twisted and evil in their toughts and being.
And then we trust lawyers to run our countries as prime ministers and presidents for god knows what behind-the-scenes deals they do !

Yeah the system is messed up.

Somebody has to do it. You can't take away anyone's right to a fair trail, no matter how bad their crime.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Somebody has to do it. You can't take away anyone's right to a fair trail, no matter how bad their crime.

TRUE:
A fair trial IS the right of every human being, but a fair punishment is also applicable in case of the subject being found guilty.

Re: Can U beleive this: Texas Woman cuts off her babies arms

Originally posted by GCG
Well Yes i believe it knowing how daft some of the Americans are.

A woman sued a microwave company because her baby died while she was trying to dry it. she won the the case because the instructions did not specify what she should not put inside the microwave.

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