Dude, Where's My Hardcore?

i'm not a huge hardcore fan, i've previously stated this in this thread. also, emocore, metalcore, screamcore, techcore, these dont make the music anybetter, its just a ****ing weak way of trying to pidgon hole everything and invent a new genre. it all sounds basicly the same. you can tell me all you want how the blast beats and screamed lyrics are a signature of this style of music, thats all well and good. but when 5 bands release the same shit and then get labeled under 3 different "cores" it all becomes amazingly retarded and pointless.

actually, none of them sound that much alike, and you probally think they all sound the same out of your dislike/inexperiance for/of the music. (that or your just stupid) all musics the same way.take rap for ex. to someone whos not a frequent rap listener, all the bass lines and fast rapping make all the types of rap, which fall under different genres, sound the same to them, when indeed theyre not.

i dont think i fall under the title stupid, but i am sure that 99% of the new music coming out from this area in music are sounding much of a muchness

True, but emo, screamo and metalcore have developed their own signature sound, and they will continue to build on it. Bear in mind that they are still very young genres.

fair enough, i still think that most of the music coming out of these "genres" is totally over rated and sounds much of a muchness

So did I until I first got into Glassjaw.

I can't get into Glassjaw because of the vocal stylings.

i do like some Glassjaw, i have "All you ever need to know about silence" (one of those titles C-Dic was talking about that seems though provoking) but only like a handfull of songs

I don't think all hardcore sounds the same. I could name 10 different bands off the top of my head that are hardcore and all have a unique sound. Sure some sound the same, but that's because of the crunchy guitar riffs and the driving beats.

and the same "scream loud and fast"vocal work

Originally posted by tabby999
i do like some Glassjaw, i have "All you ever need to know about silence" (one of those titles C-Dic was talking about that seems though provoking) but only like a handfull of songs

Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence, yeah. Good album, just different enough from much of todays hardcore to appeal to a wider audience (although that difference still isn't really huge). Plus, Daryl's primary emotion is anger, very little whinging going on.

Also, what's wrong with having long song titles? I think it's good to have weird and whacky titles like that, makes a change. It's just for fun really, not an overblown artistic statement. Besides, surely the title is one of the least important parts of any song.

Most hardcore sounds very different. Pretty much all the bands base themselves on a particular style, then add their own personal touches. As I Lay Dying are a metalcore band at heart, From Autumn To Ashes sound like Killswitch Engage but with emo breakdowns, and A Static Lullaby mix up metal, hardcore punk and god knows what else, I can't even begin to describe their sound. You think it sounds all the same because you see it as an inferior genre. If you're not interested in something, you're not going to put the effort in to pick out the differences. It's human nature.

Originally posted by Deathblow
You think it sounds all the same because you see it as an inferior genre. If you're not interested in something, you're not going to put the effort in to pick out the differences. It's human nature.

Bravo! 💃

Diecast is a good example of the extremes. Really sick breakdowns, but hauntingly mixed/melodic bridges and verses. Take a listen to their song "Medieval".

That song alone sounds like old Maiden, with hardcore breaks, and blast beats. Killer stuff.

first of all converge is still around even though they suck
second how can you say autumn something or another...its from autumn to ashes and they are definitely still around and amazing.
as for other hardcore bands what about
atreyu, alexisonfire, avenged sevenfold, the bled, as i lay dying, bleeding through, it dies today, killswitch engage, anah aevia, Norma jean, unearth, zao, coma eternal, end this day, every time i die... and those are just a few of the amazing hardcore bands that are around. I could go on forever and thats not even including local bands.

we didn't ask you to list any, we were stating that most of the new music is just guteral screaming over bad music getting called hardcore. we wern't saying hardcore as a whole was shit (i'm not a huge fan but it certainly has its moments) we're just saying lots of the new stuff is overrated

Orchid is the best hardcore band, too bad they RIP.

I've had a real lust lately for Hardcore and thrashy stuff

So many rock bands have have become sisseys I sick of that crap like red hot chilie peppers, Nirvana and crap like that

haha, u say 'become' then say 2 old-ish bands?

yeah, one that broke up 10 years ago...

Originally posted by xatreyux
first of all converge is still around even though they suck
second how can you say autumn something or another...its from autumn to ashes and they are definitely still around and amazing.
as for other hardcore bands what about
atreyu, alexisonfire, avenged sevenfold, the bled, as i lay dying, bleeding through, it dies today, killswitch engage, anah aevia, Norma jean, unearth, zao, coma eternal, end this day, every time i die... and those are just a few of the amazing hardcore bands that are around. I could go on forever and thats not even including local bands.

2/3 of those bands arent even hxc...which is another reason noone asked you to list any.