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I'm not saying Cena is good or bad quite frankly I could careless. What I'm saying is that when Triple H held the title and basically controlled Raw from 2002- mid 2005 nobody had a problem with it and his move list is worse than Cena's.

What Im saying is that some people are so hypocritical to jump down Cena's back for doing the same old crap when you constantly support people like Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair who give the same old speech and hasnt changed thier move list since the 80's.

YOU people brought this on yourselves because Im guessing the WWE feels that since you havent had problems with people like that in the past why have a problem now?

There are many people in the WWE who are boring, there gimmicks are old, etc.... But not once have any of you or anyone for that matter called them out.

Im not saying Cena is the victim in this but you've got to realize there have been people in WWE like Cena for years and they've managed to get by so why shouldn't he?

I mean he isn't the first and he damn sure won't be the last. I like Cena ok he's average and I'd rather him hold the title than to see Triple H ever hold it again.

But yeah if you gonna call Cena out like that make sure you call everybody else out while you're at it and don't dislike Cena because its the "cool" thing to do because from what everyone has bacially said so far is "everybody else doesn't like Cena so I dont like him either!" be your own person dislike him for your own reason not cause of what some other moron thinks. Thats all I have to say.

* i dealt with that already... i am my own self (pretty redundantly possessive)... i said, i'm not a HHH nor a Cena fan... i cheer them when i see them do fantastic moves, i boo them if they are crappy...

* the fact is, the way the storyline goes, Cena should be cheered, not booed... but the result is otherwise...

* well, you've done the math already... you know how long HHH held the title and controlled Raw... but why didn't the people see no problem about it? because HHH is an effective heel, rather than Cena as a face...

* contrary to your opinion, i'd rather see HHH hold another title reign than have Cena another one... not unless, they turn Cena into a heel, it would be more interesting...

* gimmicks are good... but if it's lame, crappy, and people get bored, it's not good anymore...

* now that Edge got the WWE title, everybody happy? 😛

Originally posted by LanceWindu
There are rumors floating around the internet that Jeff Hardy is close to re-signing.

Originally posted by peejayd
* nope, that's not it... haven't you noticed that if the match is Cena vs. Edge, the crowd rooted for Cena?

* that's because Edge proved to be an effective heel... not because the fans love Cena...

* and if it's HHH vs. Cena, eventhough HHH do nasty things, Cena seemed to be an ineffective face...

* just admit it, the fans boo Cena not just for any stupid reason... a face wrestler should be cheered not booed, and frankly, Cena is not that effective face, some even call him boring, same old sh*t moves... heck, you think they're not telling the truth?

* i'm not a HHH fan nor a Cena fan, as you can see but... let's just observe the fans' reaction... it speaks much louder than our posts... 😉

They need to bring Goldberg and The Rock back. Then they'd would be soaring. It seems TNA is gaining alot of popularity and stealing alot of WWE, ECW, and WCW.

Cena is an effective face

if you're 12 yrs old

Originally posted by Darth Martin
They need to bring Goldberg and The Rock back. Then they'd would be soaring. It seems TNA is gaining alot of popularity and stealing alot of WWE, ECW, and WCW.

Originally posted by Df02
Cena is an effective face

if you're 12 yrs old

Originally posted by Df02
Cena is an effective face

if you're 12 yrs old

He's annoying as hell, and that whiteboy rapper gimmick is getting old, ey. He needs a turn really bad, really fast.

or be a normal wrestler like in the old days when he used to be prototype

Originally posted by Darth Martin
They need to bring Goldberg and The Rock back. Then they'd would be soaring. It seems TNA is gaining alot of popularity and stealing alot of WWE, ECW, and WCW.

WWE is cool and all but they need to make better story lines for smackdown, they always seemed to favor RAW. I will always watch both regardless.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Really, i hope TNA dies

Why let TNA die, i agree that it isnt as good as WWE, but there X-divison makes WWE's cruserweight divison so bad.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Really, i hope TNA dies

TNA has more potential than WWE.

Originally posted by Df02
TNA has more potential than WWE.

only in some areas

Originally posted by TheKid91
Why let TNA die, i agree that it isnt as good as WWE, but there X-divison makes WWE's cruserweight divison so bad.

Just a thing there mate i'm a TNA fan since the start, previous a WCW fan since 1994 the first wrestling i ever watched.

TNA was made because WCW went bang,most of TNA's backstage staff, management,some wrestlers are form WCW. It was made for the reason of being the next WCW and the new WCW not to be different.

The X-division is great and beats any division in wrestling.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
He's annoying as hell, and that whiteboy rapper gimmick is getting old, ey. He needs a turn really bad, really fast.

I agree that he needs a heel turn, but he really doesn't have much of a whiteboy rapper gimmick anymore. He has more of a updated All American good guy gimmick like Hogan had in the 80's. Cena was much better when he was a heel rapper.

Originally posted by TheKid91
WWE is cool and all but they need to make better story lines for smackdown, they always seemed to favor RAW. I will always watch both regardless.

You actually watch Smackdown? That show is absolutely unwatchable with the exception of JBL's commentating.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Sorry but no matter what, TNA will always be a WCW rip off. The X division is cool but the rest is garbage

Like the WWE is any better. Again: X Division> anything in WWE. Hell: TNA>WWE.

The only thing the WWE has over TNA is the WWE can make events feel big and special like Wrestlemania and Summerslam. Other than that: TNA is easily better at wrestling, storyline wise I would give it to TNA because at least they stick to wrestling feuds and not all the stupid shit in the WWE.

But the main reason as to why TNA is better than WWE: at least when TNA puts on a bad show, it's just a bad show that will be easily forgotten in a few days. When the WWE puts on the a bad show, it insults my intelligence to the highest degree and makes me wonder why I even watch their terrible product when Vince thinks the intelligence of a wrestling fan is of a slobbering dog.

And I don't see the WCW comparison. Yes, they have some former WCW guys, just like they have former WWE guys, and just like they have former ECW guys. At least TNA, unlike WCW, is sticking with wrestling and not having Jay Leno in a tag team match or David Arquette winning the WCW title.

IF your on the subject of Cena he needs a new gimmick not the current one, he's stale and well booed if you remember back to ECW onight stand.

And Smackdown has gone seriously downhill i feel they should scrap the two rosters merge to one and have the one roster with all the class get rid of the crap Khali, Henry etc and have the old amount of titles and have the smackdown and raw and heat once a week.
Would be much better for the WWE product as once they went to two rosters its be getting gradulay worse.

if they brought in a European title for the mid-cards and scrapped a load of no-hopers (even though that Samoan drop was good, i still hate Umaaaaaga... and the ilk) they could merge Raw and Smackdown easily and still keep everyone happy.

Originally posted by Df02
if they brought in a European title for the mid-cards and scrapped a load of no-hopers (even though that Samoan drop was good, i still hate Umaaaaaga... and the ilk) they could merge Raw and Smackdown easily and still keep everyone happy.

i agree, WWE should merge SD and RAW