wrestling discussion

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Like the WWE is any better. Again: X Division> anything in WWE. Hell: TNA>WWE.

The only thing the WWE has over TNA is the WWE can make events feel big and special like Wrestlemania and Summerslam. Other than that: TNA is easily better at wrestling, storyline wise I would give it to TNA because at least they stick to wrestling feuds and not all the stupid shit in the WWE.

But the main reason as to why TNA is better than WWE: at least when TNA puts on a bad show, it's just a bad show that will be easily forgotten in a few days. When the WWE puts on the a bad show, it insults my intelligence to the highest degree and makes me wonder why I even watch their terrible product when Vince thinks the intelligence of a wrestling fan is of a slobbering dog.

And I don't see the WCW comparison. Yes, they have some former WCW guys, just like they have former WWE guys, and just like they have former ECW guys. At least TNA, unlike WCW, is sticking with wrestling and not having Jay Leno in a tag team match or David Arquette winning the WCW title.

1. The former WWE stars who are now in tNA are dissing the company whinning about how they were mistreated, BLah, Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah FRIGGING BLAH!!!!

2. They might of sold out arenas such as detroit, universal studios in florida, ECT. but they would never sell out the staples arena, madison square garden, ect.

3. They have to improve with the TNA championship cause jeff jarret winning the championship 6 times already is redicoulous and it makes the title defunct and dead. Hell it could even be another WCW championship failure in the end.

4. The best names in TNA are Aj styles, Samoa Joe, Austin aries, and in the future Christian cage but thats it. For now TNA is going and pushing the older wrestlers and not giving a push for the younger wrestlers. Thats thereo ther problem, they have to go and get new wrestlers besides getting has beens like sting, scott steiner, Kevin nash, ect.

5. The tag team division is so bad, i fell asleep during the matches. the WWE tag team division is not good but i still watch since Paul london and Brian kendrich are tag team champs or team.

6. Its a freakin WCW rip off. Team canada was in WCW already, team america happened during the team canada feud in WCW, all the has beens i mentioned are from WCW, and Jeff jarret was getting pushed more than any other superstar that deserved a big push in WCW. All that is hapening in TNA.

7. TNA is getting annoying by yanking the realeased to show that WWE is selfish. It depends on real real talent, charisma, and mic skills, and good working. You gotta seek hard for wrestlers now days.

Theres more its jus that my hands and my brain hurts from anll the typin and thinking.

Also evry week TNA wrestlers take a shot at WWE, and i never here WWE take a shot back.

Originally posted by TheKid91
Also evry week TNA wrestlers take a shot at WWE, and i never here WWE take a shot back.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Because they wont go as low as TNA are to argue. They worry more about the company then worrying about TNA.

yea i guess your right

Originally posted by Df02
if they brought in a European title for the mid-cards and scrapped a load of no-hopers (even though that Samoan drop was good, i still hate Umaaaaaga... and the ilk) they could merge Raw and Smackdown easily and still keep everyone happy.

Speaking of "no-hopers", why the hell are they still keeping the Bashams. They haven't had any matches for over a year.

Originally posted by JacopeX
There are so many negatives about TNA

1. The former WWE stars who are now in tNA are dissing the company whinning about how they were mistreated, BLah, Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah FRIGGING BLAH!!!!
funny thing is though... most of the ex-wwe wrestlers at TNA were massive fan-favourites when they left, Jeff Hardy, Dudleys and Christian for instance.... and WWE actually offered Christian a big contract to stay but he chose to go to WWE, and thats all ive heard him say on the matter.

2. They might of sold out arenas such as detroit, universal studios in florida, ECT. but they would never sell out the staples arena, madison square garden, ect.
what's that got to do with how exciting it is? it's a relatively new fed and hasnt got the media power of WWE

3. They have to improve with the TNA championship cause jeff jarret winning the championship 6 times already is redicoulous and it makes the title defunct and dead. Hell it could even be another WCW championship failure in the end.
Jeff Jarret has been overdone a bit, but he's still one of the best all time pure-heels imo... people love to hate him, and i mean pure hate him haha

4. The best names in TNA are Aj styles, Samoa Joe, Austin aries, and in the future Christian cage but thats it. For now TNA is going and pushing the older wrestlers and not giving a push for the younger wrestlers. Thats thereo ther problem, they have to go and get new wrestlers besides getting has beens like sting, scott steiner, Kevin nash, ect.
TNA have realised that heavyweights sell tickets, but high-flying exciting wrestling keeps people interested... WWE dont seem to get that (or just dont care), because they have a bunch of 'names' (HHH springs to mind) who rarely, very rarely put on a thrilling match, you just sound like you had something against WCW.

5. The tag team division is so bad, i fell asleep during the matches. the WWE tag team division is not good but i still watch since Paul london and Brian kendrich are tag team champs or team.
if the WWE tag championship isnt good, and the TNA tag team championship isnt good, then why make it an issue when comparing them?

6. Its a freakin WCW rip off. Team canada was in WCW already, team america happened during the team canada feud in WCW, all the has beens i mentioned are from WCW, and Jeff jarret was getting pushed more than any other superstar that deserved a big push in WCW. All that is hapening in TNA.
again, just sounds like you didnt like WCW...

7. TNA is getting annoying by yanking the realeased to show that WWE is selfish. It depends on real real talent, charisma, and mic skills, and good working. You gotta seek hard for wrestlers now days.
most of TNA's best wrestlers were never at WWE; AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, The Truth, Sonjay Dutt, Senshi (Lo-Ki)...

Christian was criminally overlooked and underused at WWE, he left because of that, and it was a brilliant move on his part, and a great bit of business by TNA.... Christian was always one of my favourite wrestlers because he had substance, he was ALWAYS entertaining.

Jeff Jarrett, as much as most people don't like him, will always sell tickets... he's a name, every fed needs them. No matter how little they contribute in the present, people like Jeff Jarrett, Sting, HHH, Ric Flair (the perfect example of attracting interest long past their sell-by date) etc will always sell tickets, because theyre semi-legends.

And like it's been said before... the X-Division shits over anything thats happened in the WWE for years, even this DX reformation money spin.

Ill stick with WWE. And hopefully is stays alive. Wrestling just wont be the same without WWE

TNA is just boring. The former WWE superstars I used to love just don't deliever in TNA. I only still watch for a couple of cumshots at christy Hemme.

Jeff hardy popularity is dyieng. COME BACK JEFF!!!!

Jacope your post about TNA being a WCW ripp off is well wrong in a way, TNA was made to be the NEXT WCW thats why the promotion came to life.

As for Christian he was never going to win the wwe title isn't big enough in size.

And jeff has dug his own grave.

Walks in looks around looks around " I'll come back when something interesting is being talked about." closes door and walks back out.

*Boards up door so Nyria can't come back in*

*sniggers*

" Screw you loser." Pulls out my drill

So anyone watching ECW these days?

Always seems to be a WWE style main event....

And as for Raw when will they announce the new GM?

"CHANGE THE CHANNEL"

hahahahahahah! I'll watch any WWECW show no matter how atrocious if it's in front of a true ECW crowd and not a kiddie Smackdown crowd. The crowd was awesome although it was a good show, wrestling wise, up until the main event. Nothing quite like seeing hacks like Batista and Big Show cry over the crowd that actually tells the truth.

Note to Vince: Next time you go to an ECW arena, you just might think about letting ECW wrestlers be the main attraction and not hack WWE wrestlers. Just a thought.

Well ECW is the third brand now and for me they should never of revived it, as it was always going to be headlined by WWE wrestlers as it keeps the ratings higher, and if you had a main event Sandman vs Sabu most fans wouldn't be attracted.

ECW is now entetaining to me. I just go back form Peru and see great gimmicks coming in. Im liking it. IMO by the way

Originally posted by woody82
Well ECW is the third brand now and for me they should never of revived it, as it was always going to be headlined by WWE wrestlers as it keeps the ratings higher, and if you had a main event Sandman vs Sabu most fans wouldn't be attracted.

I wasn't against WWECW if Heyman and not Vince was going to be in control of storylines and matches. Of course, that's not how it turned out sadly, since it seems Paul has as much say in WWECW as any of the wrestlers.

I disagree. If anything, throwing out WWE wrestlers like Kane, Undertaker, Batista is hurting WWECW as it's taking away the focus of old ECW stars and newcomers who will pretty much decide whether the product succeeds or fails. And who hasn't seen a Big Show vs. Kane match? Once you've seen one, you've seen them all. At the very least a Sandman-Sabu match would show of different match with different wrestlers that might spike the interest of the common WWE fan.

I really doubt WWECW's good ratings was because of Big Show's title defenses. I think it had more to do with a new product being pushed with an infamous name.

One note about Batisa-Big Show's match: Seeing Batista cry over a crowd that was shitting on him has given me new found respect for Cena. If anyone has gotten more shit from fans it would be Cena: from the Hall of Fame ceremony where he was vehemently booed, to One Night Stand where he would've been lynched if the ECW fans had their way, to almost every Raw where he is booed. Yet, Cena still keeps his head on his job and gets it done without any complaining or crying.

And **** the fans who complain about Cena's work rate but then cheer for Batista. This whole booing Cena thing has gotten into a "Hey, let's be cool and rebellious by booing Cena, that'll show him" thinking. It's getting beyond stupid.

I hate cena for the right reasons. I dont like his gimmick and i dont like how he is getting pushed.

i dont like Cena because he survived way too long in the spotlight with a repetoire of roughly 7moves...

punch to the face of a prone target.
tackle.
finishing move 1 (FU)
finishing move 2 (STFU)
clothesline
that sorta sidewalk slam thing that i cant remember the name of currently.
the ocassional suplex.

if anyone would like to add any moves they see him do regularly that i've missed ill consider adding them... but i honestly cant think of any.
Ontop of this as well, he has a rubbish gimmick... it makes me cringe when he comes on the screen.