Jokes about Minorities...

Originally posted by The Inkeeper
i posted what i thought of that myself. A black man doesnt make jokes and abuse himself, he points out the way others discriminate against him in a humourus way, as if he said it in a serious way...nobody would listen.

Thats why a majority of their jokes are about things going badly for them because they are black or whatever.

If a black man makes a joke about how the whites are oppressing him, is he being racist?

Also, if a white man makes a joke about how the blacks are oppressing him, is he being racist?

A person talking about their own race in a negative way or however is not racist

The debate about racist humor often gets sidetracked into the debate about political correctness.

People confuse our dislike of racist humor with a desire to censor. I don't like racists or racist jokes: that doesn't mean you can't have humor that involves minority subjects - what that means is that "jokes" that degrade an entire minority are treated like the thinly disguised hate rants that they are.

It's not a question of which demographic is allowed to say "N" words - it's what's behind what you say. I refer you to Lenny Bruce - (i'd quote him here, but I'd get banned) a man who went to jail for trying to take the sting out of "forbidden words"

edit ~ sorry, no links or jokes or pics of any kind that are racist in any way

i'll admit when i was too young to know better i laughed at jokes that would be considered racist. i grew up and learned from my mistakes, but i dont see anything wrong with a joke as long as its made in good faith and doesnt offend the person your telling it to (ever see an eddy murphy show?). if its too offensive then it shouldnt be told.

thing i hate is that nowadays like naybean and ETK have said, the race card is played way too often. we have a huge foreign community here in ireland. i (just to reitorate) am white, and not so long ago i got into a disagreement with an african guy. race wasnt an issue until HE brought it up. he called me racist because i took offence to him acting like and as*hole. that does my head in, it really does. i told him anybody can be an idiot, no matter their colour or culture, which is true. the fact is him calling me a racist made me want to kill him right there and then. i think its one of the most offensive things to call anybody.

problem is nowadays if i want to celebrate my heritage i'm branded a racist because i'm white. black, hispanic and asians can do it, why can't i?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, racist jokes are not ok. They are a form of racism, and i dont understand how can people claim that they hate racism and everything about it, then turn around and support racist jokes. Those are NOT jokes - those are excuses to insult and descriminate anyone who is different to us.

Racist jokes are underlining the differances between us! They call themselfs humour so that they can freely just get away with it!

When you tell a racist joke, you are making fun of and laughing at the fact that certain group is different. You are underlining the diefferances between us, and for some reason some people who claim are not racist, find that kind of behaviour - funny.

Well not always. Black comedians don't just go on stereotypes and ways that white discriminate against blacks, many times they point out flaws in black society that they came up with themselves. In Chris Rock's "Bring the pain" he said "There's a civil war going on between black people. And there's two sides. There's black people, and there's n******s. And n******s have got to go." He went on to talk about how black people are normal respectable people, while "n*****s" are the ignorant thugs and gangsters that give black people a bad name. Was he racist in making these remarks, or was he just calling it like he sees it?

Originally posted by Mr Zero
The debate about racist humor often gets sidetracked into the debate about political correctness.

People confuse our dislike of racist humor with a desire to censor. I don't like racists or racist jokes: that doesn't mean you can't have humor that involves minority subjects - what that means is that "jokes" that degrade an entire minority are treated like the thinly disguised hate rants that they are.

It's not a question of which demographic is allowed to say "N" words - it's what's behind what you say. I refer you to Lenny Bruce - (i'd quote him here, but I'd get banned) a man who went to jail for trying to take the sting out of "forbidden words"

Lenny Bruce was SSSOOOO awesome.

Afro Cheese: N*****s vs Black People is one of Chirs Rock's greatest skits.

Well not always. Black comedians don't just go on stereotypes and ways that white discriminate against blacks, many times they point out flaws in black society that they came up with themselves. In Chris Rock's "Bring the pain" he said "There's a civil war going on between black people. And there's two sides. There's black people, and there's n******s. And n******s have got to go." He went on to talk about how black people are normal respectable people, while "n*****s" are the ignorant thugs and gangsters that give black people a bad name. Was he racist in making these remarks, or was he just calling it like he sees it?

thats open to interpretation. btw i saw that, one of the funniest ive ever seen.

Originally posted by The Inkeeper
A person talking about their own race in a negative way or however is not racist

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
So should racist jokes be banned then? And I've got a question for you... what if the jokes are made by a minority? What if a black guy points out the flaws in his own race? Is he promoting self hate?

Number one, banning something isnt going to stop people from doing it /saying it. People need to change their attitude and not allow those kind of jokes!

Minorty or majorty makes absolutely NO differance!! It still udnerlines the differances between us and support the fact that its funny to make a joke based on skin colour, creed or nationality!! Are you not reading my posts?

The issue rises again....I see. Well, this time I'm going to keep it short. Jokes are jokes and if they offend anyone...to bad. But isn't it contradictory that certain people make jokes about Americans being fat and stupid and that's consider funny (Which I do find it funny) and yet it is offensive to Obese people. Oh noooo...someone makes jokes about Blacks or Minorities and that's wrong. Utter BS I said!

if someone doesnt find a joke funny than dont laugh but to say we need to change or censor jokes because someone doesnt like them is ****ed up

Originally posted by WindDancer
Oh noooo...someone makes jokes about Blacks or Minorities and that's wrong. Utter BS I said!

Than you have no right to argue if someone calls you racist - because you seem to find rediculing people for their creed, nationality or colour funny.

Any wahoo out there can call me a racist all they want. I, deep inside know I ain't no racist. So I laugh at racial jokes therefore I'm a racist? HA! This is too funny.

Yeah I am reading your posts but I wasn't completely clear on your views on the subject. I couldn't tell whether you were only talking about white on black jokes or black on black jokes too.

I understand that discrimination is wrong but when it comes to comedy a lot of it is making fun of some group of people. I'm not saying all, but a large amount of comedy is at somebody's expense. Whether it be on race, sexuality, profession, physical appearance, what's the difference? We all have differences and race is one of them, so why exempt the racial factor from comedy? I mean if it is a black person on stage telling jokes about black people to a mostly black audience who is loving the jokes, why is that such a bad thing?

I don't even bother getting offended anymore. It isn't worth the trouble.

ok if its so acceptable- you go into a crowded area, and start saying 'n****** have got to go'
see what happens

Originally posted by The Inkeeper
ok if its so acceptable- you go into a crowded area, and start saying 'n****** have got to go'
see what happens

where's the punchline?

there isnt one, im commenting on afro-cheeses post

Originally posted by wuTa
where's the punchline?

The punchline is when you get the shit beat out of you and we laugh.