Wolverine vs. Superman

damm, superman would definately win this battle, maybe by 50 different ways, but we have to also consider the hardness of true adamantium, i believe when they say adamantium is the hardest metal in all the comic universe, then nothing else is as hard as adamantium, that means that the altra hard metal can handel anything that is not adamantium, which means it can handle supaman's force field, the thing is, the metal will make superman feel pain but will little or no damage in his body physically, if they say that adamantium is the hardest metal, then were the f...k does all this f..ked up rumors that hulk and other mo' fo's bent adamantium. there was a comic that colossus even tried to bend a gate that is laced with adamantium in jail, the thickness of the metal is not even as thic as 1/8th of an inch in diameter, yet that thin, he could not even move/bend the metal with all his full strength.
Basically i believe that the metal as been degraded from its true properties, if a matal like adamantium is the hardest then it should have and i mean HAVE the true porperties. If kryptonite bullet can damage superman to a level, then why not adamantium bullets tiped with chizzle- points. it all depends on the writers though, if they support the theory of how hard adamantium is then i believe it is possible that wolverine can inflict some damage on superman, yet again his invernarability will keep him in pain but undamaged.

Originally posted by wolverex84
If kryptonite bullet can damage superman to a level, then why not adamantium bullets tiped with chizzle- points.

you'd think people would know the whole superman/kryptonite thing by now......

kryptonite is not as hard as adamantium.......A is not as hard as B
kryptonite bullets pierced superman's force filed......A is stronger than superman's force filed.
there for adamantium can pierce superman.......therefore B can pierce superman's force field.

might be the a good concept but just jocking 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😕

Superman for sure, in my opinion.

Originally posted by K3VIL
When SB got defeated by Spiderman (Ben Reilly) was just totally bad and crap writing story.SB is a heavyweights, yes he's a freakin teen ager version of superman with Tactile Telekinesis, but he has show feats of strenght and resistance as other powers like shockwaves, disassembly of objects and heat vision, and reaction time and reflexes obviously above that of Spider-Man, when he lose to Spidey was just bad writing and probably fan boy decision.
Anyway this thread is ridicule, Logan die, or get K.O. easy.

Yeah you cant use crossovers to argue who's stronger, it all depends on the writer.

Originally posted by wolverex84
kryptonite is not as hard as adamantium.......A is not as hard as B
kryptonite bullets pierced superman's force filed......A is stronger than superman's force filed.
there for adamantium can pierce superman.......therefore B can pierce superman's force field.

WRONG. Kryptonite piercing supe has nothing to do with how hard it is. It's KRYPTONITE it makes him a normal person, anything that would pierce a person would also pierce him i.e. a piece of rock traveling around the speed of sound.

Ever seen MA break several feet of solid concrete with their bare hands?
They know how to generate huge amounts of power into every punch.The amount of power MA can generate range in the 1000 -2000lb+ range. That's many times that of the normal human,that's why smany people consider MA to be more than normal humans. They are.
They only have normal hardened bones, Wolverine has unbreakable bones of adamantium that cannot break and his claws are capable of going through any object, whether its concrete,steel,vibranium,or superman. All he needs is to harness his MA know-how and generate a massive amount of force+add his already upperlevel peakhuman strength+his enhanced speed= the chance of actually generating enough force to hurt an offguard over confident superman.

Do the math. It is possible just strength alone doesn't determine every fight.
There are guys who can bench press 1000lbs like say paul anderson and there are guys who can't and only weight 150lbs,but can strike with 10x more force than the strong guy.

So superman be 1millionx stronger than Logan means nothing if Logan has a means with which he can hurt supes.

Its called physics.
Like I said, do the math!!!!! ❌

If it only took 2000lbs of force to pierce Superman with anything, but kryptonite, he'd be dead long ago.

oh sweet christ...

i can't believe people are actually giving logan a chance in this...

what kind of fanboys are they?

wolverine can hurt superman... riiight...

Originally posted by jplatinum
Ever seen MA break several feet of solid concrete with their bare hands?
They know how to generate huge amounts of power into every punch.The amount of power MA can generate range in the 1000 -2000lb+ range. That's many times that of the normal human,that's why smany people consider MA to be more than normal humans. They are.
They only have normal hardened bones, Wolverine has unbreakable bones of adamantium that cannot break and his claws are capable of going through any object, whether its concrete,steel,vibranium,or superman. All he needs is to harness his MA know-how and generate a massive amount of force+add his already upperlevel peakhuman strength+his enhanced speed= the chance of actually generating enough force to hurt an offguard over confident superman.

Do the math. It is possible just strength alone doesn't determine every fight.
There are guys who can bench press 1000lbs like say paul anderson and there are guys who can't and only weight 150lbs,but can strike with 10x more force than the strong guy.

So superman be 1millionx stronger than Logan means nothing if Logan has a means with which he can hurt supes.

Its called physics.
Like I said, do the math!!!!! ❌

What's MA? What are you going on about we're talking about comics real world physics dont apply, especially in the DC universe.

" if Logan has a means with which he can hurt supes. "

So youre saying logan can win if he can win.

Wolverine isnt even in supermans league

Superman has forcefield not actual invulnerability. I doubt his claws can pierce it. A blast of heat vision/freeze breath/tornado breath and Wolvie goes down. And that's just one out of a million ways Supes can beat Wolvie.

Yeah, even if we're going to assume Wolverine could get through the field, he's got no chance of even coming within a mile of Superman.

well wolverine might have a chance at penetrating supe's skin. When wolverine fights hulk, he usually just shlashes away causing scratches but not much else, when wolverine goes to impale hulk, it usually works, if wolverine slashes at superman, superman's just going to stand there smiling and troll punch logan for his troubles, if wolverine goes in to impale supe's he might have a miniscule chance of succeeding. I don't think superman's punches are going to disable wolverine horribly, Wolverine had taken full shots from the hulk without adamantium, only to get up and fight some more, horrible writing if you ask me, he should have been turned into instant jelly. and wolverine's taken direct hits from cyclops' eyebeams only to get up smoldering, and a direct hit from a nuke at ground zero for that matter, again the writing for that is on crack but well it happened. still though, despite all this, I really don't think wolverine stands 1% of a chance of walking away from this without one hell of an embarassing ass-handing, unless he gets really lucky and stabs superman in the nuts or the eyes

Originally posted by jplatinum
well wolverine might have a chance at penetrating supe's skin. When wolverine fights hulk, he usually just shlashes away causing scratches but not much else, when wolverine goes to impale hulk, it usually works, if wolverine slashes at superman, superman's just going to stand there smiling and troll punch logan for his troubles, if wolverine goes in to impale supe's he might have a miniscule chance of succeeding. I don't think superman's punches are going to disable wolverine horribly, Wolverine had taken full shots from the hulk without adamantium, only to get up and fight some more, horrible writing if you ask me, he should have been turned into instant jelly. and wolverine's taken direct hits from cyclops' eyebeams only to get up smoldering, and a direct hit from a nuke at ground zero for that matter, again the writing for that is on crack but well it happened. still though, despite all this, I really don't think wolverine stands 1% of a chance of walking away from this without one hell of an embarassing ass-handing, unless he gets really lucky and stabs superman in the nuts or the eyes

Why is the writing on crack. Its science and common since,that alot of time when you are in a fight and you are really enraged or determined that some punches will not instantly hurt you if you are determined enough.(Even if you get hit with hard bottle to your head,which happened to me and I still kept fighting while my head was bleed badly)Think about it, Take a crucial fight like the Thrilla in manilla. Foreman's punch should have decimated the much weaker slightly smaller ali, yet, ali's fighting will to prevail and probably his rage/increased andraline and endorphin levels kept him from getting knocked out the first couple good hits foreman gave him.

And why shouldn't a man with an unbreakable skeleton, insane healing factor, and sheer will power not get up after a nuclear blast. Wolverines body is more indestructable than superman's and his healing factor nowdays is leagues above any supes other than 1m or prime.

People keep trying to employ real world facts in this fight, and yet they accept that Wolverine took a nuke?

If you want to talk physics, let's talk:

In a high yield weapon (say 1megaton), 45% of the energy released upon explosion is thermal. 50% is blast wave, 5% is Ionising radiation.

The temperature immediately on detonation is between 60 and 100 MILLION DEGREES C. That's ten thousand times hotter than the surface of the sun.

Now working on the theory that Woverine (who bleeds when shot) took one of these at ground zero and got up, then according to the same rule of phyics, Superman (who regularly takes missiles/bombs/bullets/lasers without a scratch) would be 100% impossible to damage.

And don't talk to me about martial arts allowing Logan to hurt Supes. Martial arts are about channeling Qi energy into an object using your Yi (which is your 'intent'😉. An object like a sword/spear/adamantium claws doesn't transmit Qi anywhere near to the same extent as the human body.

Qi energy may allow someone to break a concrete block or withstand a sword strike, but it won't generate more lb/fts of force than a bullet. Otherwise Martial Artists would be bulletproof. And they're not.

Ever hear of the Boxer Rebellion in China? In 1900, a chinese secret society called the boxers tried to kick out foreign soldiers using kung fu and hand weapons. They didn't fare very well against European rifles...

Sorry for rambling, but though Wolverine is very very cool, he's highly overrated and this fight is such a mismatch it's a farce...

Why not pitch Batman against Galactus? I'd love to hear the fanboys on that one lol! 😄

By the way, sorry if I sounded aggressive, I just wanted to get some stuff across. No offence intended to anyone at all.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Why is the writing on crack. Its science and common since,that alot of time when you are in a fight and you are really enraged or determined that some punches will not instantly hurt you if you are determined enough.(Even if you get hit with hard bottle to your head,which happened to me and I still kept fighting while my head was bleed badly)Think about it, Take a crucial fight like the Thrilla in manilla. Foreman's punch should have decimated the much weaker slightly smaller ali, yet, ali's fighting will to prevail and probably his rage/increased andraline and endorphin levels kept him from getting knocked out the first couple good hits foreman gave him.

And why shouldn't a man with an unbreakable skeleton, insane healing factor, and sheer will power not get up after a nuclear blast. Wolverines body is more indestructable than superman's and his healing factor nowdays is leagues above any supes other than 1m or prime.

Dude we're talking comics, and by referring to real world fights and facts instead of comic book world facts and fights you show how little you really know. No matter how hard woverine tries he's not going to move the moon, or a planet now is he.......why do I get the feeling you're gonna say he could.

Haha man is this a JOke Superman will some Wov in sec.