Originally posted by theshakl
ok who wants to bet now that it is a vision of the future ..and by that i mean the OT
I bet I know what it will be. Anakin will have a vision of the future in which Luke, Han, Leia and Chewbacca have just left the garbage compactor, and Chewie is standing there cowering over the noises made by that trash creature.
Then Anakin's eyes turn to sith eyes because he gets angry over his son hanging out with such a wimpy wookie.
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He doesnt go "all evil" because of a vision...thats just part of him and what he goes through. He choses the dark path because Palps is stronger than him and plants those evil seeds in his mind. He trusts Palps and listens to what he says. IMHO, while Ani is my favorite character and most powerful jedi, he's still a little weak-minded himself, when it comes to certain other people, i.e. Palps, Padme...so if they suggest something, then he pretty much goes along with it. I kno wPadme tries to talk him out of the darkside, but he's too far gone by then.
mark my words
DEATH STAR 😛
reason: forshadowing. think of viewing the saga from the perspective of someone who has NOT seen the OT first, as GL intends it to be structured.
in ep2, we already see the deathstar on hologram, therefore, whether or not it is built in ep3, its purpose MUST be addressed, imho. what better way than such a forshadowing dream? besides, the deathstar is the main threat of the OT, besides the sith. whether or not this is true, the deathstar has to be explained. its not some minor plot point and it wasnt put into ep2 to woo oldchool fans as some cheesey nod to the OT.
Well, think of it this way...Luke's vision was of him as an evil version of himself, foreshadowing that Vader is his father and that he is also susceptable to the Dark Side unless he's careful. It was a psychological thing and used metaphorically. It did not spell out something that will happen.
Anakin's vision therefore, cannot be something such as Obi-Wan and Vader fighting on the Death Star, or Padme's death or anything, because that would ruin suspense. Instead, this has to CREATE suspense. If Anakin is not in the vision, it has to be a symbollic thing, such as Maul's face burning into Dooku's face, which burns into the face of Palpatine, showing that Palpatine is evil like the others.
Well it wouldn't make sense for Lucas to show Vader falling into the lava, Padme dead, Luke, etc, he'd just be ruining the movies. After all, he wants you to watch them Ep 1 to 6, so if you saw a vision of say, Vader killing the Emperor or Alderaan exploding, it loses all its dramatic effect in the OT. So it has to be a symbolic thing, something that doesn't make much literal sense ala the vision in Empire.
Originally posted by NoFate007
After all, he wants you to watch them Ep 1 to 6, so if you saw a vision of say, Vader killing the Emperor or Alderaan exploding, it loses all its dramatic effect in the OT.
as far as vader killing the emporer, i agree. besides, anakin is vader, and anakin wont be in the vision.
as far as alderan's destruction, i dont think it would take away from anything.
-you would not know its alderan. it would just be a sureal destruction scene of a beautiful planet, not viewed from space, but from the ground.
-we are already told in the opening crawl of ep4 that the deathstar can destroy an entire planet, so there would be no surprises killed.
-it would only add to the scene of alderan's destruction, in that we only see a tiny planet blow up in ep4, and are told by obiwan that millions of voices cried out. so how would a graphic apocalyptic scene take away from that?
-it would motivate anakin to kill the federation, since it is seemingly dooku and the federation (geonosians) that construct the deathstar.
-it would illustrate to the first-time audience just how deadly the impending deathstar will be, which will most likely be at least talked about in ep3, as the audience is already introduced to the death star in ep2. REMEMBER, that scene was for the first time viewer, so now the audience is left thinking "what was that round thing in the hologram"
-it would solidify the irony that anakin wants to stop people from dying but takes part in mass murder
i think it makes perfect sense. im not sure that it will happen, but i fail to see how it would not make sense or kill any suspense or drama in the OT for the first time viewer. as i said before, that deathstar hologram was in ep2 for the new viewers and NOT for the oldschool fans. it HAS to be explained, in that it is one of the stars of the saga. it's the ultimate threat, the supreme brainchild of the sith, along with darth vader. its not just some arbitrary weapon, its THE weapon.
Originally posted by bilbofett
the Death Star ting could work, but i still like the idea of him seeing Obi holding a dying Padme & jumping to th ewrong conclusion (sounds like a Three's Company Episode!!! LOL)
three's company lol
thats EXACTLY what popped in my mind right away, and its exactly the reason i dont want it to happen. it would just be too corny imho.