(DC)Archangel Michael vs Living Tribunal

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Even if he said that (which I doubt and going to do some research) in Vertigo that does green light the idea that LT could even take on The Presence.

This formula is completely wrong:

Presence, Great Evil Beast, Full powered Spectre = Living Tribunal

This formula is MUCH more reasonable:

Presence, Great Evil Beast, Full powered Spectre >>>>>>Living Tribunal

So Great Evil Beast who is the evil side of Yawhew is not greater than the Living Tribunal, since he is universal, full power Spectre however, hmm ...

As for your research:

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
-Michael Demiurgos is a principal character in the Lucifer series by DC comics, and is a creation of Mike Carey.

Originally posted by Galan007
I have no idea what your saying, but...

DC's God=Marvel's God, and Michael IS God's power personified.

Presence > Yawhew

Vertigo's "God" isn't Supreme, haven't you read Lucifer 75?
He said that there were forces beyond him, that he could not comperhend.

Therefore Michael is far from as powerful as you think.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You just said:
Presence =/= Yawhew

Presence > Yawhew

Vertigo's "God" isn't Supreme, haven't you read Lucifer 75?
He said that there were forces beyond him, that he could not comperhend.

Therefore Michael is far from as powerful as you think.

Michael isn't just a Vertigo character, he is also in the DCU and has the power of the Presence itself.

and the Presence=TOAA

There is not reason to even bring up Vertigo in this argument.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yes, but Vertigo's God is not Supreme, that's a fact.

When did Vertigo's God ever say that He wasn't Supreme? He seems to run every thing to me. The spectre, who is the same in Vertigo and DC, at least in role and power, is still beneath the power of Vertigo's God. Please come off your Theory when there is clear evidence that Vertigo's DC is still superior to the Spectre and there for still Supreme.

The Presence is only equal to a half powered TOAA.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The Presence is only equal to a half powered TOAA.

Where did you come up with that?

Originally posted by Galan007
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Where did you come up with that?

Originally posted by Galan007
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Where did you come up with that?

His ass?

Originally posted by Galan007
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Where did you come up with that?

Do you except that TOAA represents the power of all that is Marvel?

Do you except that GEB is equal to the presence?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Just do the math. 😉 😛

Originally posted by King Kandy
ranting

Originally posted by King Kandy
Do you accept that the Marvel and DC universes are equal?

Do you except that TOAA represents the power of all that is Marvel?

Do you except that GEB is equal to the presence?

Originally posted by Galan007
Marvel's God not NOT most powerful then DC's God. That's the bottom line.

answer those three questions, not sidestep them.

Originally posted by supremthor
I think this would a very close fight.

Taking into account, that the power Michael possesses come from the actual source, LT loses.

Note: I'm am not saying the the source of Michael's power is greater than the power of the TOAA. That is equal.

The source of Michael's power, the Prescence = TOAA.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Then DC is twice as powerful as Marvel? Is that your belief?

answer those three questions, not sidestep them.

I have said nothing except that it's absurd to think one God is greater then another.

DC's God=Marvel's God.

And GEB isn't equal to the Presence. If that were true, the Presence wouldn't have been able to banish GEB, they would have eternally stalemated.

If GEB is infact not as strong as the presence, then Presence matches up a bit better against TOAA.

But as long as There is some energy in DC which is not part of the Presence, then Either DC is stronger, or TOAA is stronger then the Presence.

First of all.. The presence+GEB should be considered DC's god, not one or the other, by the combination they are what they are, a being of absolute power; being the same, they are equal to TOAA, which doesnt mean that the presence cannot match TOAA's strenght, since it continues to be god. You cannot add or divide infinite, you can only "consider" it.

Michael is nowhere near the presence's power, thats an hyperbole. He and the Living Tribunal play the same role, they both do the bidding that the creator gave to them and they have no real discernible personality, in a way, they are just an extension of their respective gods. The specter is not just an extension of the presence, that sets him appart in his own category; but full powered with god, doing the role he is supposed to do, nothing will stop him -excepto god himself.

Originally posted by King Kandy
If GEB is infact not as strong as the presence, then Presence matches up a bit better against TOAA.

But as long as There is some energy in DC which is not part of the Presence, then Either DC is stronger, or TOAA is stronger then the Presence.