Should we fear god?

Started by Darth Thor8 pages
Originally posted by Mariland3
In my experience if there were an all-powerful monotheistic being it's personality would be that of a sadistic piece of shit that gradually sucks joy out of a human's life until they're dead, granting that person as an infant just enough joy to define from it's oppisite just enough suffering to satisfy itself at the end of that person's life.

That's more of a reflection of your depressing view on life I'd say.

How about no.

Lol, bardock almost did the bill Hicks joke “I think god put you here to test my faith dude.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't know you good enough, but I fear you moire than God

Originally posted by Blakemore
How about no.

Well if he thinks life is just one big torture and cruel joke, then he's essentially saying he would have preferred not to have lived in the first place.

Should we fear god? No

Because if a god exists and they want us to fear them then they aren't worth being worshipped.

If they don't exist, like I think they don't, then it's not worth wasting the time.

Originally posted by Newjak

Because if a god exists and they want us to fear them then they aren't worth being worshipped.

So just to follow up on this logic, if a child is afraid of his parents finding out he's done something naughty, are those parents also not worth having?

Also people who are afraid of breaking the law, because of they fear the punishment of the law, is that a Government not worthy to govern either?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So just to follow up on this logic, if a child is afraid of his parents finding out he's done something naughty, are those parents also not worth having?

Also people who are afraid of breaking the law, because of they fear the punishment of the law, is that a Government not worthy to govern either?

None of these are promising you eternal torment while saying they love you absolutely.

Also to follow up. If you're parents demand absolute obedience to them with threat of pain/abuse yes those aren't good parents.

Same for the government.

What newjak said.

Will add, if you're someone who doesn't harm, rape and/or murder just because you fear something awful will happen to you after you're dead, you're probably mental.

What robtard said.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Anyone who doesn't fear God (for whatever reason) is an idiot.

What I said. 👆

My opinion on it hasn't changed. Anyone who doesn't fear God is a fool... and the people who don't think He even exists are even bigger fools. 😉

You don’t provide any reason, you dolt.

So sorry to have triggered you, yet again. 😂

I’m not triggered, if anything, I’m disappointed.

Edit: nevermind. Not worth the effort.

Not enough substance? ermhappy

Nah, plenty of subtsance. I'm just tired of arguing with ignorant people. It's not like you all will ever admit you were so obviously wrong.

Look, I’m just not going to believe in some imaginary friend. srug it’s like thinking some ghost will guide you to some form of goodness, whatever that may be. How about we take control of our own lives? Makes more sense to me than praying to some kind of higher power. You dipshit.

Originally posted by Newjak
None of these are promising you eternal torment while saying they love you absolutely.

Also to follow up. If you're parents demand absolute obedience to them with threat of pain/abuse yes those aren't good parents.

Same for the government.

Well we can't give eternal torment, but we do give life imprisoment for certain crimes.

Anyway the extent of the punishment is one thing, but lets focus on the principal first that it's not worth following a Being who is willing to punish us for our crimes and/or deviant behaviour.

So again is it bad parenting if kids behave with a combination of love from their parents and fear for the consequences of bad behaviour? Forget abuse cases, we are only talking about the fear aspect.

And again is it wrong for me to fear penalties for wreckless driving? Does that mean Government is bad and not worth having for putting that fear into me every time I feel like speeding?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well we can't give eternal torment, but we do give life imprisoment for certain crimes.

Anyway the extent of the punishment is one thing, but lets focus on the principal first that it's not worth following a Being who is willing to punish us for our crimes and/or deviant behaviour.

So again is it bad parenting if kids behave with a combination of love from their parents and fear for the consequences of bad behaviour? Forget abuse cases, we are only talking about the fear aspect.

And again is it wrong for me to fear penalties for wreckless driving? Does that mean Government is bad and not worth having for putting that fear into me every time I feel like speeding?

I think at this point you're failing to recognize what I'm saying or you're purposely straw-maning me by ignoring what I'm saying for your own narrative.