Originally posted by Newjak
None of these are promising you eternal torment while saying they love you absolutely.Also to follow up. If you're parents demand absolute obedience to them with threat of pain/abuse yes those aren't good parents.
Same for the government.
Well we can't give eternal torment, but we do give life imprisoment for certain crimes.
Anyway the extent of the punishment is one thing, but lets focus on the principal first that it's not worth following a Being who is willing to punish us for our crimes and/or deviant behaviour.
So again is it bad parenting if kids behave with a combination of love from their parents and fear for the consequences of bad behaviour? Forget abuse cases, we are only talking about the fear aspect.
And again is it wrong for me to fear penalties for wreckless driving? Does that mean Government is bad and not worth having for putting that fear into me every time I feel like speeding?