Originally posted by debbiejo
oh nooooooooo....Will you just stop it with all the verses.........I don't even read them anymore..... ❌
If you go to the top of my post you will discover Debbiejoe that all those verses that you take issue with were not for you. The entire post was addressed to mahasattva. He responded to my post and that post was my reply back to him.
Re: This question Irks me. How is Jesus God?
Originally posted by Kelly_LS
"Holy mary mother of GOD.... .. " Well, how the frig can Mary be Mother of God when the earth was CREATED by God and Jesus is Mary's son? Im all confuzzled on this junk. If Mary was blessed with a child by God, how was Jesus <God> The one to be put into her stomach?
You have every right to be confused. The idea that the king is his own father is from the time of the Babylonians. It is not true, Jesus was just a human man.
Originally posted by Regret
Mortal means capable of death, Christ was half mortal, and thus capable of dying. Christian belief holds that is God half made him able to break the bonds of the grave and thus resurrect of his own power.
That can't be true.
1st. Christ was either all mortal or devine (or Herakles). Mary was not his "mother" she gave birth, but took no part in his creation.
2nd. If Christ could break the bonds of the grave, why dind't he rise the instant he was killed. Why wait three days? Was it not God that proke the bonds for CHrist and ascended him...(as in Herakles)
Originally posted by AllianceMarry was his physical mother. Christ's genetic makeup was half contributed by Mary. Nothing refutes this.
That can't be true.1st. Christ was either all mortal or devine (or Herakles). Mary was not his "mother" she gave birth, but took no part in his creation.
Originally posted by AllianceChrist went to preach to those in hell, purgatory, spirit prison, whatever title used to refer to it, breaking the hold it had over the dead. The three days were also meant for symbolic purposes. Christ broke the bonds of death, and ascended to God the Father.
2nd. If Christ could break the bonds of the grave, why dind't he rise the instant he was killed. Why wait three days? Was it not God that proke the bonds for CHrist and ascended him...(as in Herakles)
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...[COLOR=darkblue]No, buddha did not have a divine birth. There is no evidence that Buddha was divine in any respect. That is simply your belief. Buddha was/is a human being, and he was born a sinner just like every other human being. Buddha was/is not the master of anything except his own self-delusion...
No, Jesus did not have a divine birth. There is no evidence that Jesus was divine in any respect. That is simply your belief. Jesus was/is a human being, and he was born a sinner just like every other human being. Jesus was/is not the master of anything except his own self-delusion.
Funny how that work with just the names changed.
Re: This question Irks me. How is Jesus God?
Originally posted by Kelly_LS
"Holy mary mother of GOD.... .. " Well, how the frig can Mary be Mother of God when the earth was CREATED by God and Jesus is Mary's son? Im all confuzzled on this junk. If Mary was blessed with a child by God, how was Jesus <God> The one to be put into her stomach?
Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ (in His humanity) because God the Father used her womb to bring His eternal Son (Who has always existed) into the world.
How did God this? God is omnipotent (all-powerful) and with God nothing shall be impossible. The Holy Spirit came upon Mary (who was a virgin at the time) and the power of the Highest (God Almighty) overshadowed her, instantly (by God's unlimited power) she was with Child of the Holy Spirit. It was an absolute miracle because Mary had never known a man (sexually). That which was conceived in her is/was of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God who has always existed prior to being conceived in Mary's womb. Jesus had to become human so that He could die for the sins of the world. The Bible states that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. It further states that the wages of sin is death. There are two kinds of death: spiritual death, which is separation from the life of God. Physical death is what we read about in obituaries. Those who are spiritually dead go to Hell. Those who have eternal life go to Heaven. All people are born spiritually dead and destined for Hell because all people--have sinned and are sinners--by nature. In order to set people free from their sins so that they could have eternal life instead of spiritual death someone must pay for man's sins. No human being was capable of doing this because every human being was already a sinner. So God sent His holy (sinless) Son into the world to be born as a human being so that He could step into man's shoes as it were, pay for his sins by giving up His life, thus releasing man from the consequences of his sins. Man is off the hook now but on one condition: He must still accept Christ death as payment for his sins. Once this is done man can receive eternal life and go to Heaven instead of suffer in Hell.
^ There are some forms of Buddhism that claim that Buddha was born divine. A lot of the stories remind me of the Christian Jesus birth myth. It is normal for people to take a person from the past and romanticize him into a divine being. Neither Buddha or Jesus was any different then you or I. The biggest difference between my religion and Christianity is; Christianity states that we are all born into sin and must ask for forgiveness. However, Buddhists believe that humans are enlightened by nature, and then we fall short because of the fact we are human.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ There are some forms of Buddhism that claim that Buddha was born divine. A lot of the stories remind me of the Christian Jesus birth myth. It is normal for people to take a person from the past and romanticize him into a divine being. Neither Buddha or Jesus was any different then you or I. The biggest difference between my religion and Christianity is; Christianity states that we are all born into sin and must ask for forgiveness. However, Buddhists believe that humans are enlightened by nature, and then we fall short because of the fact we are human.
I do fully agree. That is the greatness of Buddha's philosophy.
Of course, fantastical stories and anecdotes which appear in Buddhism,however, are never the main point and they almost always exist to underscore a point that does make sense. In most cases, the metaphorical nature of the supernatural and miraculous in Buddhism is very easy to see and the Buddhist scriptures themselves state that they are using metaphorical language on many occasions.
Jesus was a human man like everyone else but he was good enough and wanted to teach people.
He is God in the sense he became one with God.... he became christ. He was not born divine, differently from others... I think this is a problem of interpretation.
Jesus is like Buddha.... Siddardha became Buddha, it was his merit... he was not born Buddha.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Christ has always existed. Jesus Christ created Siddhârtha Gautama known to many as a Buddha. To my knowledge Buddha never claimed to be God. But Jesus did claim oneness with God, equality with God, and to be the Creator in human flesh.
Because Buddha was less vain he's wrong?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Vanity?!? Truth is not vanity. Jesus is the Truth He said it Himself.[B]John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. [COLOR=red]No one comes to the Father except through Me.[/COLOR] [/B]
Jesus is just a man you are the person who makes him more.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Vanity?!? Truth is not vanity. Jesus is the Truth He said it Himself.[B]John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. [COLOR=red]No one comes to the Father except through Me.[/COLOR] [/B]
So if I say I'm God's son and the truth, I'm not being vain, I'm being correct?