RORSCHACH v BATMAN- Whos more screwed up?

RORSCHACH IS A HERO!!!!!! He never compromises; he does what is right, whatever the cost to himself... despite everything he is probably the most moral character in the whole of Watchmen... John is so far above humanity that good and evil don't apply... Nite Owl II is a ditherer... The Comedian is totally amoral... only Rorschach knows right from wrong and acts upon it... the fact that his character is distasteful serves to show how little we would actually think of true heroes... the only one who in the end realises that, in some cases at least, the end does not always justify the means...

but he kills people

isn't that wrong

Originally posted by big gay kirk
RORSCHACH IS A HERO!!!!!! He never compromises; he does what is right, whatever the cost to himself... despite everything he is probably the most moral character in the whole of Watchmen

Never compromising is not necessarily good, and killing people is not "doing what's right."

I agree with big gay kirk, Rorschach is indeed a hero. I don't agree all the time with his methods though, but still...

He stands up for what he believes in, he never gives up, and at the end of the story, he was the only one crying for the loss of all the innocent lives. The other "heros" didn't shed too many tears. A pity he is dead.

He would have been great against let's say Batman (two screwed up masterminds) in some cross-over, but we all know cross-overs mostly suck. So let him rest in peace.

By the way, Alan Moore is a genius !!

If our only chance to save humanity is to side with evil, should we do it? Rorschach thinks not... Yes, he kills people; no, that's not right; but he never says it is... never believes, unlike some of the others in Watchmen that it is his god-given right to decide the destiny of others... compromise is one of the worst traits of humanity... it leads to governments working with terrorists, and churches allowing non-believers to take key roles... occasionally it is the right thing to do, but often it just means that no one has the guts to stand their ground and say "You are wrong..."

ash, you are wrong, in his first few appearances, the golden age batman carried a gun and killed quite a few of his foes.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
ash, you are wrong, in his first few appearances, the golden age batman carried a gun and killed quite a few of his foes.

No, ash000 is right; that Batman ceased to exist durring the Crisis On Infinite Earths. The current Batman does not kill.

why is there 2 of this thread

Originally posted by Mav
Rorscach is the coolest, most awesome character ever.

Originally posted by The Batman
Rorschach is from the graphic novel "Watchmen," by Alan Moore. This is the best graphic novel ever created,B]

Originally posted by big gay kirk
[B]RORSCHACH IS A HERO!!!!!! He never compromises; he does what is right, whatever the cost to himself... despite everything he is probably the most moral character in the whole of Watchmen... John is so far above humanity that good and evil don't apply... Nite Owl II is a ditherer... The Comedian is totally amoral... only Rorschach knows right from wrong and acts upon it... the fact that his character is distasteful serves to show how little we would actually think of true heroes... the only one who in the end realises that, in some cases at least, the end does not always justify the means...

Originally posted by who?-kid
I agree with big gay kirk, Rorschach is indeed a hero. I don't agree all the time with his methods though, but still...

He stands up for what he believes in, he never gives up, and at the end of the story, he was the only one crying for the loss of all the innocent lives. The other "heros" didn't shed too many tears. A pity he is dead.

He would have been great against let's say Batman (two screwed up masterminds) in some cross-over, but we all know cross-overs mostly suck. So let him rest in peace.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Rorschach is the only character in comic books that I have felt a
personal liking and admiration for him. When he dies in the end (and
teh way/reason he died), it was the only time I got all teary-eyed
because of a comic book.

It was absolutely brilliant how Alan Moore managed to make him
be, in my opinion, the very heart of the team and their story,
despite his violent behavior and mental instability.

Yes Rorschach was supposedly a right-winger (however that is
defined), but his views were not of the hateful racist type, rather
of the "big government is evil/look out for the little man" type.

Exceletn character. Glad he's dead, only because it prevents any
chance of him being ruined in case Alan Moore ever went insane and
did a sequel like Frank Miller did with "Dark Knight Returns".

yay for rezzing thread that hasnt been posted on in over a year. I never noticed alot of racism by him though 😬

Not too many threads (especially recent one) on the
great "Watchmen".

Originally posted by The Batman
Rorschach is from the graphic novel "Watchmen," by Alan Moore. This is the best graphic novel ever created, and those of you who haven't read it (I'm lookin' at you, Gregory) should hang your heads in shame, or rush out and buy/borrow it now.

Rorschach is a murderous, right-wing nut with no superhuman abilities, but the same kind of single-minded crusader complex as Batman, with vastly differnt methods, goals, and values. He was traumatised by finding out his abusive mother was a prostitute when he was very young. He was bullied by other kids and he retaliated violently. Eventually he was taken from his home and... um... Damn, I read this again recently. It's in the next room, but I'm sooo tired. Anyway, it was probably foster care or somesuch. They thought he was retarded or similarly disabled at first, but he soon proved he was at least of average intelligence, and often quite bright.
He claims he started his vigilante career after finding about the rape, torture and murder of a young woman that was witnessed but ignored by about a hundred witnesses.
He partnered with the wealthy and technologically adept Nite Owl II, cleaning up gangs and drug rings. They both tried to join a team of superheroes, but the team didn't stay together.
At some point, Rorschach was on the case of a missing girl who had been kidnapped by some sociopaths and fed to dogs. He fed the killers to their own dogs and then began killing all his prey. When a law was passed that prohibited vigilante activity, Rorschach replied to the edict by leaving the corpse of a rapist on a police station's steps with a note that said "Never." At least I think that's right.

There is no question who is more "psycho," although I must question the meaning of the word. Psychotic (delusional) or psychopathic (without conscience)? Rorschach may be neither, but he is definitely closer to a psychopath than the Batman. The Batman is neither psychotic nor a psychopath. Rorschach had it much worse than the Batman, and he turned out much worse.

Actually it was a 12 issue mini series I know because I bought it when it came out and it's not a "graphic novel" it's a trade paperback 😆

but yes Rorschach is much more disturbed than Batman.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Actually it was a 12 issue mini series I know because I bought it when it came out and it's not a "graphic novel" it's a trade paperback 😆

but yes Rorschach is much more disturbed than Batman.

That's right.
However much Bruce is driven and tortured inside, Rorschach is way further out on that limb. He can barely relate to normal people; he sees everyone as Evil or Not Evil. Those in between, just get contempt.

Rorshach is an anti-hero. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihero

Originally posted by The Batman
I'm assuming a movie wouldn't do Watchmen justice.

Found this on the net...

http://scifiscripts.com/scripts/wtchmn.txt

Batman isn't screwed up like Rorschach in any way... he's just obsessive.

Rorschach is more screwed up.

He is really awesome though.

"Batman isn't screwed up like Rorschach in any way... he's just obsessive."

Lately he has been more than just obssesive.