Thanos vs. Superman & Thor

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Do you just blatantly ignore cis?
The imperative is making his psi talents seem even more powerful.

Not ignoring CIS. It is well within Superman's power to leave after images of himself while doing battle, you're just trying to discount it because you know that he would knock Thanos' balls loose if he fought him in this way. Forum rules state, that if a character pulls a feat more than twice, that it is a regular power that they can openly employ. How many times has Superman blitzed people in comics? Didn't Mongul Jr. teach him to fight to the best of his ability?

Let's not forget that Thor is his partner, and that he is plenty tough and versatile enough to hang with Thanos while Superman rips him in the back of the head... or vice verse.

Wank on the Imperative all you want, but the only feats that show me Thanos was any better than he was in B&T was his initial resurrection, and that was only on a physical level, his mind was mush. Where did it ever state that Death gave Thanos a power up this time around? Is this an assumption on your part? If so assumptions hold no weight.

Originally posted by Stoic
When did the rule arise that Thor could not at anytime be induced to an enraged state? Yes he came into this fight level headed, but he doesn't need a reason of galactic proportions to go into warrior madness mode.

When Superman was in character when he defeated Doomsday Rex, it is not outside of his ability to use after images while fighting someone of great power. That would be Superman fighting to the best of his ability. I was under the impression that this was an acceptable action that Superman could take.

The Champion was more powerful than either of these guys, this is true, but at the same time, both of these guys can or could have destroyed that planet as well. It may have taken a couple more hits but they have the power to destroy planets. They also have the power to eventually tax his shields, and pick him apart, piece by piece.

I'm sorry to say this and I know some people might disagree with me but I can't see either. Thor or superman destroying a planet. I can see them destroying one given some time but destroying one with a couple of punches... no.

When was the last time thor went into warrior madness mode? Even during the time it happened it was against the law of asgard and odin stated that thor would be punished for it. Why would thor go into this state again just because he is fighting thanos? It was a one time deal and I can't see thor stooping to that level just because he is in a fight.

I know its not outside of superman ability to use his speed but again, I see no reason on why you do not think thanos would touch supes or thor when on panel proof peroves otherwise.

Originally posted by 753
For one

http://img33.imageshack.us/i/avengers40jp.jpg/

Several other events just show how easy he has it tanking and avoiding thor's attacks.
http://img239.imageshack.us/i/thor8uf.jpg/
http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=ae3c9_thor.jpg

Stop doing that you're making me laugh *giggle*, but seriously dude, if I didn't know better I'd say that you were running game with those scans. Context is a real word. The Thing is no Superman (remember the FF vs Gladiator debacle?)

Scan two did not show any sort of battle, only that Thor needed to retrieve Mjolnir.

Scan three was Thanos while being super amped by the Chalice of Tears.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm sorry to say this and I know some people might disagree with me but I can't see either. Thor or superman destroying a planet. I can see them destroying one given some time but destroying one with a couple of punches... no.

When was the last time thor went into warrior madness mode? Even during the time it happened it was against the law of asgard and odin stated that thor would be punished for it. Why would thor go into this state again just because he is fighting thanos? It was a one time deal and I can't see thor stooping to that level just because he is in a fight.

I know its not outside of superman ability to use his speed but again, I see no reason on why you do not think thanos would touch supes or thor when on panel proof peroves otherwise.

Destroying a planet becomes redundant when you have feats that surpass it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Stop doing that you're making me laugh *giggle*, but seriously dude, if I didn't know better I'd say that you were running game with those scans. [b]Context is a real word. The Thing is no Superman (remember the FF vs Gladiator debacle?)

Scan two did not show any sort of battle, only that Thor needed to retrieve Mjolnir.

Scan three was Thanos while being super amped by the Chalice of Tears.

It was a clone... but the clone wasn't amped at that point yet iirc.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wank on the Imperative all you want, but the only feats that show me Thanos was any better than he was in B&T was his initial resurrection, and that was only on a physical level, his mind was mush. Where did it ever state that Death gave Thanos a power up this time around? Is this an assumption on your part? If so assumptions hold no weight.

You've already admitted you haven't read Magus' appearances (which also have some of Thanos'😉, so why would you know what is going on in Imperative?

Originally posted by carver9
I'm sorry to say this and I know some people might disagree with me but I can't see either. Thor or superman destroying a planet. I can see them destroying one given some time but destroying one with a couple of punches... no.

When was the last time thor went into warrior madness mode? Even during the time it happened it was against the law of asgard and odin stated that thor would be punished for it. Why would thor go into this state again just because he is fighting thanos? It was a one time deal and I can't see thor stooping to that level just because he is in a fight.

I know its not outside of superman ability to use his speed but again, I see no reason on why you do not think thanos would touch supes or thor when on panel proof peroves otherwise.

Thor can enter warrior madness at any given time.

Superman and Thor have feats to suggest that destroying a small planet is well within their power range.

Thanos can touch Thor, but Superman is another story, earthquake stomps won't work on him the way that they would on the Flash, he can fly, he can also leave DBZesque after images in his wake while vibrating. He doe not have to allow Thanos to touch him. Meanwhile Thor would be teeing off on the back of his head.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not ignoring CIS. It is well within Superman's power to leave after images of himself while doing battle, you're just trying to discount it because you know that he would knock Thanos' balls loose if he fought him in this way. Forum rules state, that if a character pulls a feat more than twice, that it is a regular power that they can openly employ. How many times has Superman blitzed people in comics? Didn't Mongul Jr. teach him to fight to the best of his ability?

Let's not forget that Thor is his partner, and that he is plenty tough and versatile enough to hang with Thanos while Superman rips him in the back of the head... or vice verse.

Wank on the Imperative all you want, but the only feats that show me Thanos was any better than he was in B&T was his initial resurrection, and that was only on a physical level, his mind was mush. Where did it ever state that Death gave Thanos a power up this time around? Is this an assumption on your part? If so assumptions hold no weight.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It was a clone... but the clone wasn't amped at that point yet iirc.

Thanos is now immortal, can destroy beings that aren't allowed to die, one shotted Drax, and just beat up Mar-Vell (who one shotted Surfer, Nova, and disintegrated Magus). Outside of the Anti-Matter feat, his body survived unscathed by Galactus' Annihilation blast, only got dazed by a Cosmic Cube blast, and apparently Godslayer - the thing that can kill anything - broke on his skin.

You've already admitted you haven't read Magus' appearances (which also have some of Thanos'😉, so why would you know what is going on in Imperative?

Immortality does not give him a get out of the KO zone pass. ABC logic as another poster presented earlier is what you did here.

Magus simply didn't have the durability to tank energy blasts. I bet he could beat Wonderman in many areas, but when it comes to durability Simon trumps him.

Originally posted by 753
I LOLed
You asked for scans of Thanos downing Thor with much greater ease and you got them. Stop deflecting. Thanos is above Thor by a very good deal. He has also walked all over other high heralds.

Only that his signature move and one of his strongest attacks flatly failed to even touch Thanos. the force with which he throws the hammer is supoosed to eb a huge deal isn't it?
Actually, I think that was a clone, not even the real Thanos, although I don't remember it very well.

We both no what those scans were about Homes! Good one though, my ribs are still aching.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
LOL wow cis has nothing to do with what a character can do it's what they will do and you are ignoring it posting ridiculous things like this superman doesn't speed blitz everyone he fight's nor does thor god blast them. im not going to keep spoon feeding you info try reading the comic

Superman saves the exotic good wine for those that deserve it, and Thanos would deserve it. He can use his powers in this way, thus he would, while laser writing him. Gee I guess that would give Thor just the right amount of time to God blast the back of his scalp off. Want to talk CIS Thanos wants to die, so he may just stand there and let them flay him time after time.

Originally posted by Stoic
Immortality does not give him a get out of the KO zone pass. ABC logic as another poster presented earlier is what you did here.

Magus simply didn't have the durability to tank energy blasts. I bet he could beat Wonderman in many areas, but when it comes to durability Simon trumps him.

We both no what those scans were about Homes! Good one though, my ribs are still aching.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
LOL wow cis has nothing to do with what a character can do it's what they will do and you are ignoring it posting ridiculous things like this superman doesn't speed blitz everyone he fight's nor does thor god blast them. im not going to keep spoon feeding you info try reading the comic

it's entirely dependant on their opponent.

Originally posted by Stoic
Superman saves the exotic good wine for those that deserve it, and Thanos would deserve it. He can use his powers in this way, thus he would, while laser writing him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor can enter warrior madness at any given time.

Superman and Thor have feats to suggest that destroying a small planet is well within their power range.

Thanos can touch Thor, but Superman is another story, earthquake stomps won't work on him the way that they would on the Flash, he can fly, he can also leave DBZesque after images in his wake while vibrating. He doe not have to allow Thanos to touch him. Meanwhile Thor would be teeing off on the back of his head.

Minor correction... no one mentioned in this thread fights dbz style.

I agree with everything that you said, superman is fast but he isn't unhittable.

I just do not think either of them can destroy a planet, I have reasons but again if you feel as if they could, I do not have a problem with that... both are powerful.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's entirely dependant on their opponent.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Given common knowledge i see no reason to believe he would.

Thor would know, though. He would know not to hold back, and while that might not mean he's going to try and god blast him, he isn't going to fight stupidly either.

All it will take is one punch/blast/hit to let Superman know how tough Thanos is. He'll then adjust his tactics accordingly, including (yes) using his speed. He's done it more than enough times in the past.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thor would know, though. He would know not to hold back, and while that might not mean he's going to try and god blast him, he isn't going to fight stupidly either.

All it will take is one punch/blast/hit to let Superman know how tough Thanos is. He'll then adjust his tactics accordingly, including (yes) using his speed. He's done it more than enough times in the past.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Thor does know how powerful thanos is but it has never stopped him from holding back in the past.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Thor does know how powerful thanos is but it has never stopped him from holding back in the past.I could see that my only problem with it is stoic seems to think he will speed blitz right from the start which imo he won't.

he won't, but it won't be long before he starts using it, and in that time i really don't see thanos putting him down.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which is an example of CIS.

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Originally posted by thanos-prime
Given common knowledge i see no reason to believe he would.

Define common knowledge, because my impression of common knowledge are files like the ones that Xavier has in his data banks. These were quite extensive facts. Stop with the chatter on Thanos being this mysterious new character, he's known throughout the marvel Universe... everyone knows who Thanos is, he's almost as famous as Galactus.