is 'GOD' a bad guy.

Suppose that when I get dressed in the morning, I can put on either a pair of black socks or a pair of white socks.

If God knows that I will put on a pair of white socks and I put on a pair of black socks instead, God does not know everything and therefore, is not omniscient.

But if I have to put on the color of socks God knows I will put on, then I do not have free will as I have to make the choice He knows I will make.

If God is truly omniscient, then He knows whether I am going to heaven or hell before He creates me. How can an omnibenevolent God create someone only to destine him to hell? How can an omnibenevolent God punish beings that do not have free will and have to do what He knows they will do?

Well that is kind of fascist, something like hitler "yeah we gonna live all in peace and love except for jews and homosexuals and stuff cause I don't like them"
I actually like comparing Hitler with God its so true except that God is a little more powerful.

Exactly what I am saying adam_poe thanks I couldnt have put it better.

But if I have to put on the color of socks God knows I will put on, then I do not have free will as I have to make the choice He knows I will make.

I actually like comparing Hitler with God its so true except that God is a little more powerful.

Well but it was the same with Cassandra in Greek Mythology they didn't have free will anymore they just did what they would do no real decision.
If you don't have the chance to put black socks on you don't have free will, and you only have the ability to put white dsocks on since God knows you w9oll put white socks on.

And the Hitler thing I just like to do it, since God will Burn people (hell) for no particular reason and Hitler did the same.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How can an omnibenevolent God create someone only to destine him to hell? How can an omnibenevolent God punish beings that do not have free will and have to do what He knows they will do?

Pr.16:4
"The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
Jn.12:40
"He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."
Rom.9:18
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth."
2 Th.2:11-12
"God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned."

Well but it was the same with Cassandra in Greek Mythology they didn't have free will anymore they just did what they would do no real decision.

And the Hitler thing I just like to do it, since God will Burn people (hell) for no particular reason and Hitler did the same.

God doesnt burn you for no reason 😖

If he had NO reason as you say, if you had never sinned, then there is no way you could ever go to hell. Peter probably wouldnt be able to open the gates up quick enough for you.

1. A decision that is 100% known before is not a decision. Its whatever History or something.

2. I just thought it was funny since I never heard anyone compare God with Hitler. But of course you can say God supports what we nowadays define as good so this comparison is stupid of course.

I don't see what the point of human existence would be if God stepped in and intervened every time we screwed up. If he gave us all free will and we get to choose whether we want to be good or bad, do you think he's going to step in and take away our free will everytime we make the wrong decision? That would be pointless. Had there been a God I wouldn't view him as a bad guy, because he would have gave us life. Life isn't all peaches and rainbows, there are ups and downs. Don't blame the creator for war and genocide, blame the created.

Originally posted by The Inkeeper
God doesnt burn you for no reason 😖

If he had NO reason as you say, if you had never sinned, then there is no way you could ever go to hell. Peter probably wouldnt be able to open the gates up quick enough for you.

But its 'god' that would have caused people to exist. They didnt ask to be created, so he created them knowing that they will eventually sin and be burned.

I doubt that there is a single living adult human that is truely innocent and has never committed a single sin (even in their thoughts). Although it is largely debatable as to exactly what is defined as a sin.

As i posted earlier, yeah he created them knowing they would sin

Pr.16:4
"The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

A decision that is 100% known before is not a decision. Its whatever History or something.

I don't see what the point of human existence would be if God stepped in and intervened every time we screwed up. If he gave us all free will and we get to choose whether we want to be good or bad, do you think he's going to step in and take away our free will everytime we make the wrong decision? That would be pointless. Had there been a God I wouldn't view him as a bad guy, because he would have gave us life. Life isn't all peaches and rainbows, there are ups and downs. Don't blame the creator for war and genocide, blame the created.

God wants everyone to go to heaven. However, some reject the free gift of salvation. God knows this beforehand, but God is JUST. In the end, God gives people who do not accept Him exactly what they want: nothing to do with Him. *Smiles wryly.*

so he just created them to judge them aand put them in hell?
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thats my only conclusion

But its 'god' that would have caused people to exist. They didnt ask to be created, so he created them knowing that they will eventually sin and be burned.

You are correct, everyone will eventually sin but sins can be forgiven.

so he just created them to judge them aand put them in hell?

No man a decision that has only one path I mean that can only lead to one cionclusion nis not na decision goddammit,.
If I can'T put on white socks tommorow, and I just thoinkk I could its not FREE WILL. God can't you understand.

And are you saying he gives us after death the opportunity to say "oh dammit I was bad give me a chance" or will he just say "your bad!! If you weren't a muslim and brought up to believe in that you would have had a chance but oh well shit happens". I meran what is a good life? I mean some people that belive in God still do shit (one of them even bombs countriesd if he feels like it (in the name of God)).

No I desired a good life with people being friendly a life that works through science and not through God how trhe **** do I get that?

And are you saying he gives us after death the opportunity to say "oh dammit I was bad give me a chance" or will he just say "your bad!! If you weren't a muslim and brought up to believe in that you would have had a chance but oh well shit happens". I meran what is a good life? I mean some people that belive in God still do shit (one of them even bombs countriesd if he feels like it (in the name of God)).

No man a decision that has only one path I mean that can only lead to one cionclusion nis not na decision goddammit,.

No I desired a good life with people being friendly a life that works through science and not through God

eh how is that what kind of lunatic would do that?

And someone brought up in the deepest part of somalia never hearing of the Bible or anything had no chance to say so how should he knoe what this "god" person considers right .