is 'GOD' a bad guy.

Started by FeceMan7 pages
FeceMan Restricted

eh how is that what kind of lunatic would do that?

To what are you referring?

And someone brought up in the deepest part of somalia never hearing of the Bible or anything had no chance to say so how should he knoe what this "god" person considers right .

This is a question I have asked myself and I cannot answer it.

Bardock42 Junior Member

I was refering to that:

you do not have to lead a good life to go to heaven! You can be evil, corrupt, vile and still go to heaven, just as someone who was good, righteous, and sacrificial can still go to hell.

since I don'T get your God can you explain me what he is trying to tell us with that?

FeceMan Restricted

since I don'T get your God can you explain me what he is trying to tell us with that?

God is saying that one must have one's sins forgiven to enter into heaven, and there is only one way to do so: the crucifixion of Jesus.

Bardock42 Junior Member

So you have to belive and worship god and Jesus while you life to enter heaven and that is the only possibility? So someone who rapes children andd kills woman but prays to Jesus might get in while someone who lives like the perfect Christian life but doesn't belive in God is ****ed?

And again if that is true what about Babys that fdie never hearing of Jesus or people that live in "bad" regions its not their fault that they don't know anything aboot the Christian God.

FeceMan Restricted

So you have to belive and worship god and Jesus while you life to enter heaven and that is the only possibility? So someone who rapes children andd kills woman but prays to Jesus might get in while someone who lives like the perfect Christian life but doesn't belive in God is ****ed?

For Pete's sake, read what I wrote--YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORSHIP GOD TO GO TO HEAVEN! Yes, that is the only possibility. Yes, the rapist/murderer would get into heaven while the other fellow would not. Yes, it seems unfair until you realize that you have to do ONE tiny thing to go to heaven. Do you know how much Christ suffered on the cross? Do you know the agony he endured? The Romans had crucifixion down to an art. Through that pain you have the opportunity to live forever.
And again if that is true what about Babys that fdie never hearing of Jesus or people that live in "bad" regions its not their fault that they don't know anything aboot the Christian God.

I told you, I do not know. But, think of it this way: babies can't really sin, they do not have a moral compass and they cannot disobey.

Bardock42 Junior Member

You know how many more have died on the cross and through other even worse kind of tortures? . And it is stupid God just want s us to worship him then, he doesn't care what we do and who we are, he just likes the attention he doesn nothing for us, he is a bad person. So you say Beliving is the most important thing, what about people that don't really belive in him but go to church. And me for example I can'T truly belive in god I might be able to say I do belive in god but I never really will I have no chance to come to heaven if there is any, and God knew that and he still created me , why I ask you why did he do that, he created non belivers for what reason?

FeceMan Restricted

You know how many more have died on the cross and through other even worse kind of tortures?

Name some (forms of torture).
And it is stupid God just want s us to worship him then, he doesn't care what we do and who we are, he just likes the attention he doesn nothing for us, he is a bad person.

First off, neither is God a person nor is He "bad". God does care what we do and who we are, but he does want us to worship him...and yet we do not have to. He does nothing for us? How about breathing life into your body or sending His son to die a humiliating, agonizing death so that you have the opportunity not to go to hell?
So you say Beliving is the most important thing, what about people that don't really belive in him but go to church.

Take a swing at that one--you tell me what happens.
And me for example I can'T truly belive in god I might be able to say I do belive in god but I never really will I have no chance to come to heaven if there is any, and God knew that and he still created me , why I ask you why did he do that, he created non belivers for what reason?

You can believe in God. And if you do say that you believe in God and you do not, well, He knows everything.

finti Senior Member

He does nothing for us? How about breathing life into your body or sending His son to die a humiliating, agonizing death so that you have the opportunity not to go to hell
nah just a load of bull

Bardock42 Junior Member

First no I can't I am uinable to, at least now.
Why do you want to know forms of torture? Well Hanging on a piano string sounds like not fun at all, that thing where four horses get each an arm or aleg and then pullk doesn't sound like fun., thinting on this sharp stone or whatever and getting weights on your legs suck, get salt on your feet and die laughing because a goat licks it from your feet isn't my favorite way to die.
But why dioes he want us to belive? And why can't he just give the non-belivers what they want to stop existing after death? Why Hell? I really don't get that.

FeceMan Restricted

nah just a load of bull

That is not a valid argument.

finti Senior Member

Why Hell? I really don't get that.
neither does the chrisitans they just like to think they do

Bardock42 Junior Member

Oh thanks finti I forgot that, yes he does nothing positive for us, many people would be better of not existing, sending his son down and therefore causing more death and pain then ever before is not particular good from my point of view either. Neither is an institution like hell.

finti Senior Member

That is not a valid argument.
just as good as listing up things from the bible, cause they aint valid as argument either

FeceMan Restricted

Why do you want to know forms of torture? Well Hanging on a piano string sounds like not fun at all, that thing where four horses get each an arm or aleg and then pullk doesn't sound like fun., thinting on this sharp stone or whatever and getting weights on your legs suck, get salt on your feet and die laughing because a goat licks it from your feet isn't my favorite way to die.
But why dioes he want us to belive? And why can't he just give the non-belivers what they want to stop existing after death? Why Hell? I really don't get that.

Do you know the agony of crucifixion? I think it is worse than any of the forms of torture/death you have described. You still do not understand, though--hell is not a punishment (per se), it is the COMPLETE AND UTTER SEPARATION OF AN INDIVIDAUL FROM GOD.

finti Senior Member

crusifixtion aint the worst form of torture, phsycological torture is

Bardock42 Junior Member

I don't want to ****ing live after I am dead I want to be dead. And Crucifixion is surely not the worst death and jesus is not the only one who died from it either.

Afro Cheese Senior Member

I heard about some form of Chinese torture where they kill you by slowly dripping water on your head.. it's supposed to like drive you insane or something.. I don't really get how it kills you.

Bardock42 Junior Member

And in what way am I not seperated from God now except for my grandmother annoying me with telling me I will burn in hell?

Bardock42 Junior Member

No I think they let you slowly die but while doing that you get the water dripping on you.

finti Senior Member

I heard about some form of Chinese torture where they kill you by slowly dripping water on your head.. it's supposed to like drive you insane or something.. I don't really get how it kills you
well it doesnt kill you, it is a psycological form or torture to break you down and it is said to be one of the worst form of torture to encounter. It aint chinese though, it is widley used especially during times of war. And in the end you probably go insane if you dont break down and spill your guts before you go insane