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Originally posted by theshakl
PEOPLE STOP!!! THESE RUMORS ARE ALL FALSE!!!

Someone quick tell the posters at theforce.net boards that these are all fake!

"Only my pride."

YODA WILL NOT SAY THIS!!
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TRUST ME!!!

🙄 I would've believed you if you had added a couple more exclamation points.

Originally posted by Anakin2Vader
ahh the necklace .. thanks

so if Yoda learns the "ghost thing" after the Obi Wan v Anakin Duel then that means Anakin wont know the trick but he will have heard of it via Sidious and Plaguies but the Sith cant use the power and then that means that when Anakin is able to use it at the end of ROTJ then that confirmation he is a jedi again.....right?

ive always wondered about this. i wondered why the emperor never became a ghost himself after he died. he's like the most powerful being at the time and cant even become a ghost.

when exar kun becomes a ghost in the trilogy books after thrawn, does he use the same technique, or is his way different?

NO EU please!! If Ani does not learn the trick from Yoda or Obi it only validates the prophecy....Anakin is the chosen one and is OF the force & thats why he can do it.

but why cant paplatine if he is the strongest being in the galaxy at that time?

Motee also says there is something the Sith will NEVER have, and my guess is that this is it. They can never know the trick to 'eternal life' ala being one with the force because they are too consumed with wanting power in the here & now.....

maybe the force doesnt let them, because it would disrupt the balance again?

Honestly I think this will probably be one of those questions that does NOT get answered in the movie, I'm betting there will be alot of stuff left unanswered & open to debate for years....

from tf.n but anyway...

Re: Yoda going to Dagobah to learn about the living force?

Yes...but the twist is wicked cool.

Re: Owen knowing Anakin is Vader:

It won't be mentioned on screen. Even now you should be realising that Obi-Wan told a lota lies to young Luke...

Some general points:

* There are some direct instructions from Yoda about the snippet.

* Yoda is to blame for the Jedi's downfall - he is arrogant. Much to learn, has he...

* Qui-Gon does not appear.

Yoda admits his errors. He was under-equipped to face Sidious, he didn't see the future...Dooku was right in what he said to Obi-Wan in the Geonosian prison.

MORE TWISTS!!! YESSSS!!!!

i thought dagobah would have no mention?

Yoda is arogant???wtF!

He does go up to sidious one on one. even mace takes some jedi with him. as good as yoda believes he is, he has SO underestimated sidious.

true

I dont see why everyone has a problem with the 'pride' line. Yoda has always seemed prideful to me in his knowledge of the force. Not necessarily in a bad way. One can be proud of one's abilities without being arrogant which is how he was in ESB. All thru the PT though he has seemed on the verge of arrogance. ('yes, too sure of themselves they are,,, that line in particular shows it off to me, he says it as if applies to every jedi BUT him) And it seems now that GL had it planned that way the whole time. Quite clever actually... So of course his pride is hurt, he is known as THE most powerful force user in the galaxy and gets his ass handed to him by Sids. He then has 20 years to think about things before meeting up with Luke. So altho I would have never in a million years thought that this would ever be a Yoda line, it does actually fit the situation, IMO.....

And for him to fail in front of the whole Senate as well....it would be hard to take.

I got the impression that the senate was empty at the time.....

oh, i didnt read that part.

Originally posted by bilbofett
I dont see why everyone has a problem with the 'pride' line. Yoda has always seemed prideful to me in his knowledge of the force. Not necessarily in a bad way. One can be proud of one's abilities without being arrogant which is how he was in ESB. All thru the PT though he has seemed on the verge of arrogance. ('yes, too sure of themselves they are,,, that line in particular shows it off to me, he says it as if applies to every jedi BUT him) And it seems now that GL had it planned that way the whole time. Quite clever actually... So of course his pride is hurt, he is known as THE most powerful force user in the galaxy and gets his ass handed to him by Sids. He then has 20 years to think about things before meeting up with Luke. So altho I would have never in a million years thought that this would ever be a Yoda line, it does actually fit the situation, IMO.....

So do you think Yoda was the most sure of himself out of all the Jedi, which made him responsible for the fall of the Jedi? And it almost seems obvious that Mace is better at lightsaber battles since Sid gets his a$$ handed to him by Mace.

^^^ I think its part of Sidious' plan to make him look like the victim of an attack more than Mace defeating him

Originally posted by bilbofett
I dont see why everyone has a problem with the 'pride' line. Yoda has always seemed prideful to me in his knowledge of the force. Not necessarily in a bad way. One can be proud of one's abilities without being arrogant which is how he was in ESB. All thru the PT though he has seemed on the verge of arrogance. ('yes, too sure of themselves they are,,, that line in particular shows it off to me, he says it as if applies to every jedi BUT him) And it seems now that GL had it planned that way the whole time. Quite clever actually... So of course his pride is hurt, he is known as THE most powerful force user in the galaxy and gets his ass handed to him by Sids. He then has 20 years to think about things before meeting up with Luke. So altho I would have never in a million years thought that this would ever be a Yoda line, it does actually fit the situation, IMO.....

The problem with the Yoda line is that no one wants to see Yoda really go out on the losing side and then admit defeat... Id rather them fight each other for a while evenly until The Emperor gets help from his Stormtroopers and overwhelms Yoda forcing him to make his escape. just my opinion

I wonder if Dooku is having second thoughts about helping Sidious. It almost seems as if he is trying to set things right, but trying to hide this fact from his so called master.