Originally posted by shadowy_blue
I had a dream in the past few days.
"Le upedyn aenan corenar. Man gara gorodh ehiraman le peden ehir, uimel nin"amarie cantarile sentaran colenada farlie samor belarco shorinta felarrin enctar tharinior beltan corinath saricle vante lalorma salcoral shevtal anarthlie shorcan tellor andorale nitalle corinath bethar samrin velarta arnimlot seranle sherale tarpelco acrotor shenta vandi tarclin sharvel carelth banca shaltar arinte var ancord vartal shavtan callie tarpa lango farastle sharliv
Whew... youre scaring me 😖 😕
Il try to translate it a litte, but might take quite long especially the second because it seems to be something like Quenya...
Though there are some quite uncommon sounds or combinations in it that dont occur in Quenya, like sh or v as a last letter... or lonely d, vt, rthl. will try...
Im still totally confused with that stuff... well, I tried to translate the first part, I didnt really understand it, but at least I tried to find meanings for the single words. Strange, for some words one thinks to know exactly what they mean though Ive never read them before, but if you try to look it up in some dictionary or whatever, its nowhere to be found... however, the first words:
Le upedyn aenan corenar. Man gara gorodh ehiraman le peden ehir, uimel nin
Le - YOU or "TO YOU"
Upedyn - the form looks like ú (not) + either the plural of a word like *podon or *padon; however, if it's pedin instead of pedyn, it would translate "I dont speak", but confusingly the verb isnt mutated as it should be after "ú" - ú-bedin.
If I take the word to be a plural of some word, its again confusing - because padon means "I walk" - how can you make a plural of a verb?? - and I see no other i the vowels could be afflected to, so I suppose this means "I DO NOT SPEAK".
Aenan - no idea. Ae means "if", nan means "valley", there is also the possibility of aen+an, an being "long" or "big", the meaning of aen isnt really known, it could be "they" or also "may it be" [cf Quenya "Nai"], it also seems to be used as an indicator for passive or making a phrase hypotetical - like "perhaps".
Corenar could be interpreted as Cor-en-ár, "RING OF THE KING" or Cor-e-na[u]r, "RING OF FIRE" (or cor-e-nâr, ring of the rat 😛 )
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Man - usually used as "WHO" or "Which one", but mân is also a word for a "departed spirit"
Gara - maybe a form of the verb gar- which means to hold; the correct form in combination with "man" should be "Gâr", "who holds", but if the verb would be a-stemmed, it would be "gara". There is also a word garaf meaning "wolf", but I dont think thats suiting here.
I dont know any word Gorodh, but there is one Goroth which means Horror or Fearofdeath (like gorgoroth, ?guruthos). But which function does it have? If its the object of the sentence, it should be 'oroth, or maybe its a lenited from of *corodh? Coron is ring, and if r follows n it mutates to dh so corodh-... - but there is no r afterwards 😕
Ehiraman - quite uncommon form for Sindarin, this h in the middle. I first thought it could be e-chír Aman, "of the Lord of Aman", though Aman isnt a Sindarin name. or maybe Echil-Aman, follower-of-Aman or human-of-aman? Aman [or rather avan] could also mean "for whom"
Le is again You or For You
Peden - sounds like "SPOKEN", but "spoken" should rather be "pennen" or "pennin" though to speak is "ped-"; maybe the word is Pedin, "I speak"?
Ehir - again no idea, "Of the Lord"?
Uimel nín - to me sounds like "Of my beloved", litterally "of the dear my", but I found nothing corresponding in any dictionary.
So I suggest something like
"To you I dont speak ?? Ring of Fire;
Who holds/?has ?terror of the Lords of Aman | to you I speak of the Lord, of my beloved"
😖 😖 😖 --- strange.
i am scared to death...this is realy cryptic and scary...
the idea of dreams and such has always fasinated me. and i love the idea of them.....and it is very strange....when people have recuring dreams like yours it means its very important...(duh!) it might be a phrophacy from God....or something that relates to what happend to you at one point in time....stress causes such dreams also...anxiety, and depresion will also have effects on your dreams...what puzzles me is that you just started speaking in a language you don't know....and thats what is scary....BUT DONT you be scared! its just that i've never heard of anything like it...in ur dream are you traveling? is there an obstacle you have to overcome in ur dream....or are you simply at rest and haveing peace with your ellven friends? i realy think you should talk to ur sis or mom about it as it could be very important....
sory if i sound like a phsciatrist person...but my nanny(she's not realy a "nanny" thats just what we call her...) is a phsciatrisy thingy...and i have talked with her about my dreams and stufff like that....free of charge😄
i'm here for you s-b......🙂
By the way, as far as I could remember in my dream, I was like...I came from a journey..or them? I can't remember if it was me who arrived or them..all I know is, we haven't seen each other for a long time and we all missed each other. 😖 Obstacles? nnooo...when we saw each other..we just sat down on the ground in that forest thingie and we we're having peace...that's where the words then came..I spoke it, and then those friends of mine were quiet and contemplating..and just before they answered whatever I said or asked...all came to a blur, and I can't remember what happened afterwards, then I suddenly woke up..all for 5 nights that's what happened. 😖
Anyways, Exa and sauron, the first part of it that you translated and connected...about the Ring of Fire..it was like as you've said,"don't tell anyone I spoke to you, about who holds the Ring of Fire", maybe it was Narya? 😕 And we all know that nobody except the Wise knew that Gandalf kept it right? When Cirdan gave it to him? 😕
OK, so..I'm Cirdan? No...no...maybe other Elves in Mithlond? there's no forest in Mithlond, right? But..I didn't see what I look like so it's not impossible if I'm a guy in my dream..😕 But I was talking to other Elves...😖
Anyways, that's just the first part of the statement that I thought about..what about the other words in that statement..with the Lord of Aman thing? 😕
welcome 😛
you should go and lay out under the stars to think tonite 😛 it is a wonderful way to clear your mind, and I get all my best inspiration that way (or sitting in a spot in the woods, but theres not many woods around here ❌ )
You should give it a try, mabye you will recieve some insite about your dream