God or No God?

Originally posted by Punker69
I never said they weren't. I just didn't understand why you believed something when the biggest evidence it has for it is told cannot happen.

I would think the same thing about your beliefs. Now do you see how your point of view assumes that reincarnation cannot happen? There is no reason why it could not happen just like an after life has no reason why it cannot happen. The fact is; we don't know what happens to us after we die. Just like Christianity has anecdotal evidence to support its claim so does supporters of reincarnation. There is no true evidence to support or deny any claim about the after death.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would think the same thing about your beliefs.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Now do you see how your point of view assumes that reincarnation cannot happen? There is no reason why it could not happen just like an after life has no reason why it cannot happen. The fact is: we don't know what happens to us after we die.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Just like Christianity has anecdotal evidence to support its claim so does supporters of reincarnation.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no true evidence to support or deny any claim about the after death.

I belive in god as i am a catholic

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God . Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."
Psalms 53:1

* according to the Bible, only fools would say there is no God... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God . Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."
Psalms 53:1

* according to the Bible, only fools would say there is no God... 😉

No, I believe you are wrong. It said that "the" fool. Who is this fool? You are assuming that it is a person that said there is no god, but there could be other types of people who say there is no god. Also, this statement was in the OT and according to Christian dogma, the old law was done way with. How do you know that was not also done away with? You don't because the above statement is out of context historically.

* out of context? it was from Psalms... another thing, i thought you are a Buddhist?

Originally posted by peejayd
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God . Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."
Psalms 53:1

* according to the Bible, only fools would say there is no God... 😉

Raca Vain, empty, worthless, only found in Mat 5:22. The Jews used it as a word of contempt. It is derived from a root meaning "to spit." ..............Seems the same as fool to me....Is this a contradiction?

Originally posted by debbiejo
And Jesus said if you call some one "raca" (sp?) that you are in danger of the fires of hell.........

Raca Vain, empty, worthless, only found in Mat 5:22. The Jews used it as a word of contempt. It is derived from a root meaning "to spit." ..............Seems the same as fool to me....Is this a contradiction?

No, it means that it is only god's place to judge people. Humans are not to judge other humans.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would think the same thing about your beliefs. Now do you see how your point of view assumes that reincarnation cannot happen? There is no reason why it could not happen just like an after life has no reason why it cannot happen. The fact is; we don't know what happens to us after we die. Just like Christianity has anecdotal evidence to support its claim so does supporters of reincarnation. There is no true evidence to support or deny any claim about the after death.

You ignore the question at hand by bringing my beliefs into the discussion. Its not about my beliefs its about yours right now. I wasn't insulting you but just askingn a question in hopes of an answer. Geuss I asked too much....

Originally posted by Punker69
You ignore the question at hand by bringing my beliefs into the discussion. Its not about my beliefs its about yours right now. I wasn't insulting you but just askingn a question in hopes of an answer. Geuss I asked too much....

The question was presumptuous.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would think the same thing about your beliefs. Now do you see how your point of view assumes that reincarnation cannot happen? There is no reason why it could not happen just like an after life has no reason why it cannot happen. The fact is; we don't know what happens to us after we die. Just like Christianity has anecdotal evidence to support its claim so does supporters of reincarnation. There is no true evidence to support or deny any claim about the after death.

The way I see it, if there is an afterlife, then reincarnation follows. Why.

Generally speaking, what we can observe reveals balance.
In physics, there is balance (eg, law of conservation of mass).
In biology, there is balance (that whole, harmonious 'web of life' thingie).
In psychology, there is balance (eg, justice, mathematical reciprocity).
So, if there is a spiritual dimension to the universe, there reincarnation brings balance.

And btw, "gilgul" is a Hebrew word meaning transmigration of souls, ie, reincarnation, so the concept is not entirely alien to the JudeoChristian POV.

Originally posted by Mindship
The way I see it, if there is an afterlife, then reincarnation follows. Why.

Generally speaking, what we can observe reveals balance.
In physics, there is balance (eg, law of conservation of mass).
In biology, there is balance (that whole, harmonious 'web of life' thingie).
In psychology, there is balance (eg, justice, mathematical reciprocity).
So, if there is a spiritual dimension to the universe, there reincarnation brings balance.

And btw, "gilgul" is a Hebrew word meaning transmigration of souls, ie, reincarnation, so the concept is not entirely alien to the JudeoChristian POV.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The question was presumptuous.

How would you know? You see words on a screen. Not my expressions.

Originally posted by Punker69
How would you know? You see words on a screen. Not my expressions.

Your intent was clear after a few posts. However, I could always be wrong.

Use the smilies! 😄

Originally posted by Alliance
Use the smilies! 😄

You talking to me? 😛 Cause I always forget to us smilies. 🙁

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your intent was clear after a few posts. However, I could always be wrong.

You are.

Originally posted by Punker69
You are.

Really? Well, if I recommend a book or two, would you read them? I am not a good teacher, but I know some good books. 😄

I strongly beleive there is no way to prove either one.

We cannot prove that God does or does not exist.

However, it shouldnt matter. Morality should not change because of it. My definition of morality is THIS and this alone:

Live your life and be who you are, the only CRIME is when you try to hurt other people.

That simple.

Forget "sins" forget the millions of contradictory rules, forget this "AM I WORTHY" of going to Heaven, that's like asking "Am i worthy of having my parents' love me?"

Forget that stress. Just love your neighbor, treat everyone with the respect that you know you deserve as well.

As long as you do not AIM to hurt or kill another person, then you are a good person and you deserve happiness until the end of time.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I strongly beleive there is no way to prove either one.

We cannot prove that God does or does not exist.

However, it shouldnt matter. Morality should not change because of it. My definition of morality is THIS and this alone:

Live your life and be who you are, the only CRIME is when you try to hurt other people.

That simple.

Forget "sins" forget the millions of contradictory rules, forget this "AM I WORTHY" of going to Heaven, that's like asking "Am i worthy of having my parents' love me?"

Forget that stress. Just love your neighbor, treat everyone with the respect that you know you deserve as well.

As long as you do not AIM to hurt or kill another person, then you are a good person and you deserve happiness until the end of time.

Very Buddhist of you. 😄