Originally posted by finti
if you cant function normally you aint no genious, the toll of being so bloody sharp in one field is neglected in another so. Smart all around would maybe create a genious but its hard to find someone that is smart all around
Most of the time the genius does not function normally, because of his peculiar abnormally sharp skill- normal people function normally, and they aint geniuses. Being very smart in one field can make you a genius.
Only the idiot can be deluded.
No one can delude themselves, delusion is not by will - it's rather forced upon the deluded. Thus, a megalomaniac is not deluding himself, but suffers from the force of delusion - ouside of his will and control.
So by what you say, "only an idiot can be deluded", ergo anyone deluded is an idiot. So whether a megalomaniac is deluding himself or not, by your earlier observation, we can conclude that since he suffers under a dellusion (no matter what the cause) he is an idiot.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
So by what you say, "only an idiot can be deluded", ergo anyone deluded is an idiot. So whether a megalomaniac is deluding himself or not, by your earlier observation, we can conclude that since he suffers under a dellusion (no matter what the cause) he is an idiot.
As I stated before, I meant that only the idiot can be deluded by other people. In other words, only if one is deluded by other people can one be an idiot.
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Originally posted by Philosophicus
No one can delude themselves, delusion is not by will - it's rather forced upon the deluded. Thus, a megalomaniac is not deluding himself, but suffers from the force of delusion - outside of his will and control.
How is it forced upon the deluded?"
"outside of his will and control" = forced......duh!
No, your argument is faulty - an average person is not very smart in any field whatsoever. So, if someone is very smart in one field, he cannot be average.smart people are overrated, when it all comes down to it they aint all that smart after all, smart whithin a field yes overall no. What you do is underestimate the avarage, dont think yourself too highly above this cause you aint.
Originally posted by finti
smart people are overrated, when it all comes down to it they aint all that smart after all, smart whithin a field yes overall no. What you do is underestimate the avarage, dont think yourself too highly above this cause you aint.
Firstly, when a person is extremely smart within a field, such as a composer, an artist, a philosopher, a performing artist, a scientist, he is considered to be a genius - why do you think they refer to people like Einstein, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Shakespear, Michelangelo, etc who were all just extremely talented in one field, as geniuses? 😛
Secondly, the avarage cannot be underestimated - they are merely average - nothing more, nothing less...they have no exceptional talent in anything.
Thirdly, Who are you to say I'm not high above the average? My IQ tests suggest that I am indeed very high above the average - I've done mensa tests, Glia tests testing intelligence on the very high level and the Internatinal High IQ Society tests and scored in the category of 'genius' (141 +...my highest was 189) - I doubt whether an average person can achieve such scores. 😛
Moreover, I don't think an average person has the ability to write the kind of poetry I write - my poetry contemplates the existential condition, has been published and received recognition by the acclaimed South African writer, Francois Bloemhof;and my philosophical writings are really not about simple matters - I analyse the ontology of being and self-conciousness on a very in depth level. At school my marks was very much above the avarage - I graduated from high school in the top ten. The average person, by the way, is not even remotely interested in philosophy.
Anyway, its merely your opinion that I'm not far above average. I think everyone in this forum is high above average - the average person don't think on a philosophical level.
What proof do you have that my intelligence is not above average anyway? I also think you are very intelligent and witty, I'm being totally sincere. So give me a reason why you think I should not think myself too highly above the average.
Originally posted by Storm
I' ll rephrase it again. Give me an example of one of your delusions and explain me how it is forced upon you.
What don't you understand, Storm? When I suffer from a delusion, it is outside of my control, I don't choose to suffer from it, it is forced upon me in that sense - it acts on me without my consent, choice and without me being able to exercise control over it. It's not forced upon me by someone else, but it's a mental condition which I don't want to allow to rule me, but still it exercises its force on me. How much clearer do I have to make it?
What proof do you have that my intelligence is not above average anyway?the way you come off in your posts, braging about you being a genious an all, writing poetry dont make you a genious regardless of what feedback you get. You mention some composer and writers, and they did create good music and write good stories so what, people do that today too without being looked uppon as geniouses. That you have a creative skill doesnt mean you are a genious, cause some considered as an avarage intelligent person, that might not be too good with numbers and words can do magic with fixing stuff.
Originally posted by finti
the way you come off in your posts, braging about you being a genious an all, writing poetry dont make you a genious regardless of what feedback you get. You mention some composer and writers, and they did create good music and write good stories so what, people do that today too without being looked uppon as geniouses. That you have a creative skill doesnt mean you are a genious, cause some considered as an avarage intelligent person, that might not be too good with numbers and words can do magic with fixing stuff.