Thor Squad vs Supermen
Way back these four actually teamed up:
Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Thunderstrike and Dargo (Thor of the future)
vs
Superman, Eradicator, Cyborg Supes (Henshaw) and Superboy.... (Steel would get destroyed so real Superman is subbing in for him), for this fight Henshaw isn't trying to kill his three team-mates.
Which team takes it?
Thor team wins. Thor fighting smart takes either Supes or Eradicator, BRB DOES fight smart, so the same goes for him. Cyborg would be tough, but if worst came to worst battlefield removal is an option. and one heavy magical blast from Mjolnir or Stormbreaker should put the boy down.
EDIT: just read up on Dargo, sounds like he's got all of Thor's powers, so that just cements the Thor team's win in my mind.
Seeing as the thread said Eradicator and not Last son of krypton, Thor would NOT be winning here. Erad can melt any of them or transmute him into virtually anything. Cyborg could take out Thor by himself since he can create virtually any weapon he wants and can be in multiple bodies at once, He can also increase his strength and durability. Battlefield removal is also an option for the supes team as erads can put them in the phantom zone. Those two alone would give them a hard time. Add Supes himself and you have a tough trio, and superboy is just the icing on the cake while being the weakest here.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Seeing as the thread said Eradicator and not Last son of krypton, Thor would NOT be winning here. Erad can melt any of them or transmute him into virtually anything. Cyborg could take out Thor by himself since he can create virtually any weapon he wants and can be in multiple bodies at once, He can also increase his strength and durability. Battlefield removal is also an option for the supes team as erads can put them in the phantom zone. Those two alone would give them a hard time. Add Supes himself and you have a tough trio, and superboy is just the icing on the cake while being the weakest here.
Thor takes out Eradicator
Beta Ray Bill takes out Supes, since he tends to use his hammer's blasts more often.
Dargo could take Cyborg, or at least match him until one of the others took their opponent out
Thunderstrike takes Super Boy down with force blasts.
Thor team wins.
Oh, and for those wondering what Thor can do at his best, here's a pretty comprehensive list of his powers I've found.
http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040224214306&q=oliva
Originally posted by Khellendros
Anything Eradicator can do, Thor can either undo, block, or duplicate. What weapon could the cyborg possibly create that would take out Thor?Thor takes out Eradicator
Beta Ray Bill takes out Supes, since he tends to use his hammer's blasts more often.
Dargo could take Cyborg, or at least match him until one of the others took their opponent out
Thunderstrike takes Super Boy down with force blasts.
Thor team wins.
Oh, and for those wondering what Thor can do at his best, here's a pretty comprehensive list of his powers I've found.
http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040224214306&q=oliva
Thor is not a matter manipulator, and he cannot undo anything that Erads can. He can use take over thors mind, transmute him, burn him to a crisp, he's as strong as supes, and much faster, can make shields. He could put Thor in a shield and throw him into the Sun easily.
Cyborg would take out Dargo with ease. Once again, he can even inhabit multiple bodies at once and make weapons that can take out virtually any foe. Add this that he too is much much faster than anyone in the thor squad and as a living computer can calculate every move on the battlefield before anyone makes it. He can also take over any one of their bodies with physical contact. He could probably crush their skulls with their very own helmets.
Superman has already beaten thor, and this wouldnt be any different...and Thunderstrike isnt exactly the best. Superboy probably would give him trouble.
Team Thor is not winning this.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thor is not a matter manipulator, and he cannot undo anything that Erads can.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He can use take over thors mind, transmute him, burn him to a crisp, he's as strong as supes, and much faster, can make shields. He could put Thor in a shield and throw him into the Sun easily.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Cyborg would take out Dargo with ease. Once again, he can even inhabit multiple bodies at once and make weapons that can take out virtually any foe. Add this that he too is much much faster than anyone in the thor squad and as a living computer can calculate every move on the battlefield before anyone makes it. He can also take over any one of their bodies with physical contact. He could probably crush their skulls with their very own helmets.
Thor team wins.
Originally posted by Khellendros
Dude, did you even read the link? He can manipulate matter.Okay, again, read the link. Thor can block the energy he transmutes with and resist the mind takeover. Thor has fought in the center of the sun, so he won't get burnt to a crisp. Masterson Thor has stopped Gladiator in the middle of a speedblitz. Thor makes shields too. Eradicator is getting his power source drained and having that power used against one of his team members.
Thor AND BRB have super speed. They can block his blasts, pound him with the hammer, shunt him to another dimension, or just drain his cyborg parts of their power.
Thor team wins.
Erads has easily burnt supes with just a touch. Supes who can live in the heart of the sun. Thor will get fried. Are Thors matter manipulation abilities anywhere on par with eradicators? I've read quite a bit of thor in the past and have never seen Thor do anything like that. Erad can absorb any energy as well...and can fight while intangible. Thors speed is nowhere near the light speed that Erads and Cyborg are being creatures of space and technology...even at their fastest, they would be as standing still to these two. If sent to the phantom zone, they will be rendered powerless wraiths.
Then you still have Supes and the boy, not exactly slouches.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Erads has easily burnt supes with just a touch. Supes who can live in the heart of the sun. Thor will get fried. Are Thors matter manipulation abilities anywhere on par with eradicators? I've read quite a bit of thor in the past and have never seen Thor do anything like that. Erad can absorb any energy as well...and can fight while intangible. Thors speed is nowhere near the light speed that Erads and Cyborg are being creatures of space and technology...even at their fastest, they would be as standing still to these two. If sent to the phantom zone, they will be rendered powerless wraiths.
Originally posted by Khellendros
You don't seem to understand that Thor can drain Eradicator's power supply. He can absorb limitless amounts of energy. And intangibility didn't work for Vision, Thor f*cked him up. Thor and Beta Ray Bill react and fly faster than light speed, so Eradicator and Cyborg can whip around all they want, meanwhile BRB and thor will just drain them AND Supes of all electrical solar and other energy, leaving three useless fighters and Superboy.
I don't think that you get that by the time they even think about anything like this... They will be taken down.
Cyborg and Erads have never been drained, and I doubt that its even possible with those two. Cyborg is far more indestructable than any of the fighters in either team.
Also, Erads and Cyborg, not being true living beings can knock the hammers away from any thor and pick them up (though not use them to any real effect besides bashing)
Supes has already beaten Thor. Everyone on his team is as strong as he is and far more versatile with their powers. They can be killed and burnt to a crisp easily, transmuted with no chance of turning back, or just beat down physically if that is what this turns into. Team supes has too many advantages.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I don't think that you get that by the time they even think about anything like this... They will be taken down.Cyborg and Erads have never been drained, and I doubt that its even possible with those two. Cyborg is far more indestructable than any of the fighters in either team.
Also, Erads and Cyborg, not being true living beings can knock the hammers away from any thor and pick them up (though not use them to any real effect besides bashing)
Supes has already beaten Thor. Everyone on his team is as strong as he is and far more versatile with their powers. They can be killed and burnt to a crisp easily, transmuted with no chance of turning back, or just beat down physically if that is what this turns into. Team supes has too many advantages.
Supes beating Thor was definitely PIS. And he even said afterwards that he ahd his measure, and a second fight would end differently. You cannot transmute Thor and Beta Ray Bill, two people who have hammers that can stop the energy before it even hits them. Supes team is outclassed here.