hypocricy of the Christian faith.....

If I told you that an Alien TOLD ME that it was going to destroy the world in 2007, would you believe me? Why or why not?

You only lack faith because you have not studied science, archeology and secular history

As a matter of fact, scriptures were written 30 to 50 years after Jesus' death

Finti

You are absolutely correct. The EXACT date as to when scriptures were written about Jesus are unknown, and perhaps always will be. Historians however, agree that they originated 30 to 50 years after the death of Jesus. And some even state that they were written 60 to 80 years after death. It's true, no one knows for sure. Does that surprise you? We are not talking about yesterday's newspaper. Remember... that historians argue as to when the scriptures were written, not over authenticity! How they make decisions on when they were written is unknown to me? Ask a historian or read a book about it. Perhaps in my later studies I will learn?

Stating that you wouldn't believe in the notion that I attained future knowledge of the world through an Alien does not surprise me. Your smarter than that. No one would. Maybe children, but not mentally stable adults. It would be silly to do so, for it goes against logic and common sense thinking. But, if I brought an Alien to your house, you might have a change of thought on the issue.

Claims of this caliber reflect those of early Christians stating the resurrection of Jesus Christ. If it were not true, the vast majority of people would not believe in such idiotic claims. So, there really must have been a resurrection. If not, Christianity would have died, and we wouldn't be talking about it today, some 2,000 years later. No one would care. Lies and fabricated stories surrounding Jesus would have been rejected like Enquirer magazine headlines. Jesus walks after death (ha ha ha)! What fools!

But, people DID believe in this unnatural act. I doubt such believers were mentally dead or were looking for kicks in joining a new cult, only to pay the ultimate price... death.

How they make decisions on when they were written is unknown to me?

But, if I brought an Alien to your house, you might have a change of thought on the issue

not true, the vast majority of people would not believe in such idiotic claims. So, there really must have been a resurrection. If not, Christianity would have died, and we wouldn't be talking about it today, some 2,000 years later.

But, people DID believe in this unnatural act

Finti

Thank you for pointing out the obvious in stating that the Old Testament is older than the New Testament and that people held it to be true. And again, it's obvious you haven't learned much in your studies. The Old Testament is nothing to be quarreled with, due to it's massive amount of prophecy and scientific knowledge.

How important is prophecy? Some people might believe that prophecy is interesting, but is not especially important. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Prophecy is a key standard the Bible tells us to use to "test" whether something is trully from God (Deuteronomy 18:19-22).

This standard is obviously critical. It means that words spoken, writings, and information of all types that are claimed to be from God should be judged based on any prophecies made. If a holy books is supposed to be inspired by God, it must be 100 percent accurate regarding all prophecies. This is a big problem for the holy books of some religions.

ONLY the Bible commands its readers to "test everything" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). ONLY the Bible is 100 percent accurate in hundreds of specific prophecies!

Here is just one example: Look at the 2,500 year old prophecy which was fulfilled on December 11, 1917: The Turks of the Ottoman Empire controlled the Middle East for 400 years. There were powerful warriors; nobody could defeat them. But something miraculous happened. Isaiah 60:8 predicts that the airplane would come into existence: "Who are these that fly like birds to their windows?" Then Isaiah 31:5 says, "As the birds flying, so will the Lord defend Jerusalem." What could that have meant? On December 11, 1917, General Allenby - leading troops in the Middle East - sent two pilots over the land. The fierce Ottoman warriors saw these planes flying like birds and they were petrified; they dropped their guns and fled the land. It was one of the few wars ever to be won without a single bullet! God's prophecy had been fulfilled - and it was preparing the way for the return of the Jews, which happened on May 14, 1948.

The account of creation alone makes the Bible unique among holy books and reveals a fingerprint of God. Genesis 1 provides an amazing, accurate account of creation that has recently been fully confirmed by the scientific world. Some highlights of the lastest evidence include:

The order of creation events, in precise agreement
with science.

The implication of the beginning of time
(Genesis 1:1; see also 2 Timothy 1:9;
Titus 1:2; 1 Corinthians 2:7) now confirmed
by the general theory of relativity.

Obviously, Moses had to have divine revelation just to KNOW the events of creation. No other holy book contains that information. But even if the creation events were common knowledge then, (which is impossible, because people were just plain stupid in those times right Finti) the odds of his guessing the correct order was about 1 in 4 million - simular to the odds of winning a state lottery.

And again, it's obvious you haven't learned much in your studies. The Old Testament is nothing to be quarreled with, due to it's massive amount of prophecy and scientific knowledge

Thank you for pointing out the obvious in stating that the Old Testament is older than the New Testament and that people held it to be true

And for your info, prophecys are easy to say they were about after a event, yet the signifisence might not be true to the original prophecy

accurate account of creation that has recently been fully confirmed by the scientific world

The fierce Ottoman warriors saw these planes flying like birds and they were petrified; they dropped their guns and fled the land

just reading in, but the entire thing about the gospels being created between 30 and 50 A.D. is bull, the YOUNGEST gospel is estimated to be between those two.
The oldest, I believe, was estimated to be from 120 A.D.

between 30 and 50 A.D. is bull, the YOUNGEST gospel is estimated to be between those two.

if jesus was jewish then how come the people who call themselves the followers of jesus dislike jews? i want to know that i hate being jewish and having to explain that jesus was jewish it is so flipping anoying

if jesus was jewish then how come the people who call themselves the followers of jesus dislike jews?

Originally posted by finti
yeah a bunch of nutcases just like that dude long ago who claimed to be the son of god.

jesus was soooooooo great! 🙂

...for a conman 😱

ok.. so theres a thread with a plea to stop hating on satanism.. but then theres a thread devoted to bashing christianity... theres a hipocricy in itself 😉

ohh great avvy and sig there, Clash rules loved them ever since my brother bought London Calling for me for xmas 1979

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
ok.. so theres a thread with a plea to stop hating on satanism.. but then theres a thread devoted to bashing christianity... theres a hipocricy in itself 😉

Jesus was Gods spirit in the flesh, in revelations John only sees ONE God on the throne, not 2, not 3. No you do not choose between the anti-christ and Christ when Jesus comes back, those already saved will be raptured before that, then Gods spirit will totally leave the world. At that point if you are still here and go against the anti-Christ you will have to die in order to be saved. Jesus does ome back againto make the earth anew, and rule for a thousand years. As for The Bible, it did not make sense to me until I got saved, now it is very clear. There are stilla lot of questions unanswered, but as humans we are not supposed to know everything, but lare supposed to live in faith. The Lord said ther would be no sign given to this generation, he does not owe us anything, He died for us.

I studied pre-trib. rapture, but did you know that is a new teaching from the last 200 years or so. I also studies mid-trib, and post-trib and if this thing happens, it will be post- trib. If you look at the verses carefully you'll see that you will see the Antichrist. I can't remember where it is at this moment. Some people were taught like I was that the Antichrist is a man, or pope even, but many believe it's a system, or belief. Some believe it the lawless (the ones that don't keep Gods 10 commandments), because the Antichrist changes times and laws and God would only be concerned with HIS laws. the changing of times would be the day of worship on the day that God said is holy, which is the Sabbath, not Sunday. That day was changed by a mere man, the pope in 325 ad.

There are just too many scenarios, so I'll just watch and see which one is right.

The anti-christ is also the person who will start a world government, denouncing all religion, and creating a false one, which will be world/self focused, and it will people away from God. I personally believe pre-trib is the most likely one.

Every religion that claims divine revelation from god and boasts a savior is a false religion.

God has never spoken to or through anyone.

Although that anti-christ you speak of above seems like a very smart person! 👆 The world would be a much better place if humanity was more self focused on improving itself.

denouncing all religion, and creating a false one,

and it will people away from God