darthgoober
Senior Member
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Ok you got me on the history part, but the fact still remains that the Sentry has proven to be nearly immune to enrgetic attacks... Bob has already done his part in convincing me that he can stalemate the Surfer when it comes down to manipulating energy.... he did bring his dead wife back to the land of the living, and she was very dead, has the Silver Surfer done this? If so that's 1 for 1.
Bringing someone back from the dead in an impressive feat(no doubt), but it's not exactly unheard of. Her's been shown to be able to do it and she's on par with Warlock WITHOUT the Soul Gem powerwise and is nowhere near the energy manipulator that Surfer is.
And even if we assume that manipulation of a life form is definitively more impressive than the standard manipulation of energy(which is strictly a matter of opinion), is bringing one person back from the dead really more impressive restoring life on a planet, then evolving the planet and every being on it billions of years in a matter of seconds so that everything's finally destroyed...
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Originally posted by CaptainStoic
You know something? I noticed that along the plot lines of the Silver Surfer once again becomming Galactus' Herald that they are on a collision course with Earth, and we all know what that means.... I prepared to eat crow with a smile, are you?
Sure.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Are you claiming that the Silver Surfer can drain Thanos? Why hasn't he... what's the score between those two anyways? I thought Thanos was up 3 - 0.
Maybe because Thanos has energy absorption abilities of his own and his powers are generally of a higher tier than Surfer's. Maybe he's afraid that Thanos's max will overload him. Maybe it's just PIS. Who knows? But the fact that Surfer doesn't try to drain Thanos doesn't indicate that he's unable to anymore than it indicates Thanos being immune to absorption in general from EVERYONE.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I've read alot of Silver Surfer comics and I have never seen him read a persons thought,
Surfer reads a woman's thoughts...
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9427/silversurferv401019eg6.jpgOriginally posted by CaptainStoic
take control of a crowd of people with his thoughts, or erase his existance from the minds of billions, have you?
Surfer joins the minds of the entire planet and briefly brings about world peace...
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I've seen him resist psychic assault, but the again so has the Hulk. 😬
Well I've never seen the Hulk(or Sentry for that matter)...
Send a telepathic message to another galaxy...
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or follow a dying person onto the Astral Plane
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or absorb and manipulate the psychic energy of countless souls...
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…have you?
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The Red Skull now you're reaching, I mean really.... seeing as how you brought that up, I really don't even feel the need to continue this discussion. Why would you bother to bring up someone that couldn't hold a candle to Captain America, and turn around and compare him to someone that would defeat him in a picosecond or less?
You do realize that Skull was the first guy to handle a cube on panel and has done so multiple times since right? And again, I'm not saying that whatever it was that Sentry did wasn't impressive, but our lack of information about what was going on makes the feat too ambiguous and unquantifiable to accurately gauge Sentry's power off of. The fact that CC's are massively influenced by the willpower and mentality of the user makes it even worse.
But if we're going off of feats like that, I think that Surfer beating the Unilord(who was another multiverse’s version of Eternity) and momentarily stalemating Thanos when he first got the Infinity Gauntlet are both worth mentioning 😉 .
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Because of the Sentry's obvious resistance to the power cosmic (on panel evidence), and the fact that his bio states that his vast psi abilities are used to control his power, and help to keep him from falling apart or turning into the Void, there is a slight chance that he may feel a cosmic blast from the Surfer, but it looks more like he can easilly resist it.
Surfer's energy has generated billions of terawatts of power, destroyed planets, matched Thanos's energy output, and created Blackholes. Tell me, has Sentry ever been hurt by anything less than any of those? If he has it seems to be a little unreasonable to assume that Surfer's blast will be ineffectual.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Like I said before Bob has already shown how well he takes energetic assaults it the Surfer that has to step up and prove that he can do something that no other being has been able to do.
Surfer's already shown that his energetic abilities can do what no one else has been able to do when he channeled the energies of the Crunch.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I see you think a whole lot of Silver Surfer, Gladiator mixed with the Uni power, with hulk strength, and Wonder Mans punching power???
You misunderstand, those are all people that Surfer's taken punches from without actually being put down.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Please, The Sentry defeated the Void. The Void resisted Dr. Strange, Black Bolt, Colossus, Namor, The Thing, Cyclops, Ironman, Sue Richards, the Human Torch, Luke Cage, the Inhumans, Reed Richard's and at least half a dozen others, without realising that they were even hitting him. Dr. Strange alone could spell trouble for Norrin Radd, throw in the rest and the Surfer would be doomed.
ABC logic. Void and Sentry are different and the way that one fights is in no way “in character” for the other.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Sentry beat this all by himself..... and yes he stalemated that parasite of a master that the Silver Surfer calls master. Believe it or not,, Marvel says it happened, so it did... what's so hard to believe it's a comic book.
Surfer’s beaten Tenebris and Aegis, the Unilord, Mephisto, and stalemated Millinius(an Odin villain) so I think it’s safe to say that his high end track record is more impressive against single opponents of great power(which is what this fight is).
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Sentry is going to face the Silver Surfer and this is what will happen, Surfer is going to pull his energy blast crap to nil effect, Sentry is going to get all up in his face.... you know the way Thanos did, and drop bombs on the bum until it's nighty night.
Does Sentry charge up his fist with cosmic energy when he’s punching like Thanos does against Surfer?
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I can see it now as Sentry rips his ass off that board and brings him planetside for the big beatdown.
How can you possibly see that when you’ve never seen anything of the kind? What people on Surfer’s level has Sentry EVER delivered a beat down to?
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
So feel free to PM me... If I'm wrong I'll PM you with the I was wrong speech, but I'm not wrong, Surfers going to lose.Cosmic Cube>>>>>>>>>>> Silver Surfer.
The Big Crunch/Unilord>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sentry