The Sentry vs Sliver Surfer

Originally posted by The Great Galen
...I might believe u if it wasnt for him being tossed around by Thor so much.

Surfer beats Sentry but not easily.

This thread sure has gotten interesting...

Neither Sentry nor Surfer are anywhere near as hyper-powerful as some would like them to be. Neither of them are lighting up the other with a billion suns worth of power while the other one laughs it off and battles headless and in pieces while intangible at 1000x light speed.

If and when they fight on panel (eventually we all know it's going to happen) I'm certain that they will definitely hurt each other if they go physical. Neither one is going to have an easy time with another.

Meanwhile, Sentry is going to have more lows than Surfer as for one, he's an Earth hero. A majority of Surfer's lowest showings have come from his time on Earth. It's a given that on Earth these guys are usually toned down somewhat.

Going by Surfers/Sentry's showings vs Hulk, well, Hulk has a variable strength rate whether when angry. How does one measure exactly how angry/pissed Hulk is? The only thing we know is that Sentry fought what is currently the most powerful version of the real Hulk in a head 2 head battle. He doesn't have the ability to drain Hulk... then again, Surfer doesn't have the ability to calm Hulk either. We don't know if draining would have been viable against WWH. We do know that Sentry's darker half (void) destroyed standard Hulk effortlessly though. While Surfer has beaten Terrax without too much hassle, he's never owned Terrax with the casual ease that Sentry has.

In short, while this is Surfers fight IMO, short of a bfr, Surfers going to work for it.

Rulk would beat both their ass!

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Terrax can level planets and he can do those with his fist, and look what happened when he confronted sentry.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
1 on 1 against the surfer would be exactly the same for terrax.

And yet he never has.

and yet he burnt out when terrax expended all the cosmic power doom gave him thinking he could hold out against the surfer.

Surfer wins hands down. Its quite simple really. The only way the sentry is going to be beating SS is by knocking him out physically. Considering that SS is probabaly the most durable top tier character, this in itself will be extremely hard to do. However SS has multiple ways of defeating the Sentry which would be far more effective than sentrys only way of beating SS. Options such as BFR, Blasting to pieces,enrgy absorption etc. These are all very valid tactics for SS. Sentry has yet to show resistance to matter manip from an SS level manipulator so matter manipulating him is also an option.

In a comic though this fight would be much closer than it should be cuz SS wud probably go the physical route first and get knocked for a loop b4 eventually taking the sentry out.

Originally posted by Avlon
And yet he never has.

easily put, nobody in the herald class is touching norrin when he's powered. (without PIS and without de-powering/sapping of coarse.)

if sentry can mess with his power then he has a shot, A & T only put him down for seemingly a couple minutes and they're galactus level each.

Really the only argument thats going for the sentry fans is the ridiculous ABC logic that Sentry beat terrax easier than SS.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
easily put, nobody in the herald class is touching norrin when he's powered. (without PIS and without de-powering/sapping of coarse.)

if sentry can mess with his power then he has a shot, A & T only put him down for seemingly a couple minutes and they're galactus level each.

He was almost dead had Galen not stepped in, dont make it sound like he was holding both of them off and exchanging blows.

Originally posted by Avlon
This thread sure has gotten interesting...

Neither Sentry nor Surfer are anywhere near as hyper-powerful as some would like them to be. Neither of them are lighting up the other with a billion suns worth of power while the other one laughs it off and battles headless and in pieces while intangible at 1000x light speed.

If and when they fight on panel (eventually we all know it's going to happen) I'm certain that they will definitely hurt each other if they go physical. Neither one is going to have an easy time with another.

Meanwhile, Sentry is going to have more lows than Surfer as for one, he's an Earth hero. A majority of Surfer's lowest showings have come from his time on Earth. It's a given that on Earth these guys are usually toned down somewhat.

Going by Surfers/Sentry's showings vs Hulk, well, Hulk has a variable strength rate whether when angry. How does one measure exactly how angry/pissed Hulk is? The only thing we know is that Sentry fought what is currently the most powerful version of the real Hulk in a head 2 head battle. He doesn't have the ability to drain Hulk... then again, Surfer doesn't have the ability to calm Hulk either. We don't know if draining would have been viable against WWH. We do know that Sentry's darker half (void) destroyed standard Hulk effortlessly though. While Surfer has beaten Terrax without too much hassle, he's never owned Terrax with the casual ease that Sentry has.

In short, while this is Surfers fight IMO, short of a bfr, Surfers going to work for it.

Sounds about right to me.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
He was almost dead had Galen not stepped in, dont make it sound like he was holding both of them off and exchanging blows.

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg

Turns all that 1 million exploding suns energy for an internal attack like the scan above.. Surfer FTW..

Originally posted by Ambient
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg

Turns all that 1 million exploding suns energy for an internal attack like the scan above.. Surfer FTW..

Originally posted by The Great Galen
He was almost dead had Galen not stepped in, dont make it sound like he was holding both of them off and exchanging blows.

From what I've seen, the Silver Surfer has handled Terrax with ease, but so has the Sentry. There really is no proof that the Sentry can take a full cosmic assault from the Surfer, but evidence is more in favor that he can versus the alternate possibility of him not being able to.

If the Sentry has all of this energy within him, wouldn't any cosmic assault launched at him by a being as poweful as the Silver Surfer be like trying to burn Firelord, or even the Human Torch with a match?

When I think of how a battle between these two would turn out all I can see is a seen from a bar, where a little drunk guy get out of line and the mean big bouncer guy rips him up by the seat of his pants and tosses him out.

The Sentry is the bouncer in this seen.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
From what I've seen, the Silver Surfer has handled Terrax with ease, but so has the Sentry. There really is no proof that the Sentry can take a full cosmic assault from the Surfer, but evidence is more in favor that he can versus the alternate possibility of him not being able to.

If the Sentry has all of this energy within him, wouldn't any cosmic assault launched at him by a being as poweful as the Silver Surfer be like trying to burn Firelord, or even the Human Torch with a match?

When I think of how a battle between these two would turn out all I can see is a seen from a bar, where a little drunk guy get out of line and the mean big bouncer guy rips him up by the seat of his pants and tosses him out.

The Sentry is the bouncer in this seen.

Sentry has a lot of energy so SS attacks wouldn't hurt him, is that what you're trying to say?

And Sentry hasn't shown the power to do anything that would correlate to your example of the bouncer.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
From what I've seen, the Silver Surfer has handled Terrax with ease, but so has the Sentry. There really is no proof that the Sentry can take a full cosmic assault from the Surfer, but evidence is more in favor that he can versus the alternate possibility of him not being able to.

If the Sentry has all of this energy within him, wouldn't any cosmic assault launched at him by a being as poweful as the Silver Surfer be like trying to burn Firelord, or even the Human Torch with a match?

When I think of how a battle between these two would turn out all I can see is a seen from a bar, where a little drunk guy get out of line and the mean big bouncer guy rips him up by the seat of his pants and tosses him out.

The Sentry is the bouncer in this seen.

No, because the energy isn't the same (and even then, it doesn't make sense). Besides, all of Sentry's unleashed energy burnt out in a couple minutes...

Heh?
I would like to see proof of Sentry being akin to a scene like that in relation to Surfer.

Originally posted by Mindset
The bolded doesn't make sense, imo.

Sentry has a lot of energy so SS attacks wouldn't hurt him, is that what you're trying to say?

And Sentry hasn't shown the power to do anything that would correlate to your example of the bouncer.

The power one one star is more power the the Silver Surfer has within him, and within the sun are more wavlengths of cosmic energy than you can shake a stick at.... what I am saying is that since the Sentry generates power like a star does, the Silver Surfer's cosmic assault should be as impotent as Terrax's was.

The seen of the Bouncer booting the little out of control guy to the curb, is just me saying that the Surfer's power cosmic should be ineffectual against the Sentry, basically like throwing a bucket of water at Hydro Man... do you get it now?