Will Episode III surpass any of the OT movies? [Merged]

Started by Arsenal21 pages

I think Maul would school Dooku in a duel using only lightsabers and not any force powers.

He did have talent, yes. Dooku did lay waste to both Obi-wan and Anakin, and also fought with Yoda, to which some may say he won, others may say he tied, and some even might say he lost, due to the fact that he ran away, but whichever the outcome, Dooku was a former Jedi, and becoming a Sith behind their backs, and waging war upon them really was pretty big, imo. Christopher Lee also does a brilliant job bringing his character to the screen, as did Ray Park for Darth Maul.

Maul did fight dirty with punching and force powers; Dooku used lightning before lightsaber fight(s).. so it's all relative.

Maybe, but dooku defended against yoda, who was meant ot be the best lightsaberist in the galaxy. It would be close though

Originally posted by eleveninches
Maybe, but dooku defended against yoda, who was meant ot be the best lightsaberist in the galaxy. It would be close though
Which is why Yoda's so stunned when he
Spoiler:
loses to Sideous

Maul would have beaten obi wan if he hadn't done that cheap move. Realistically we all know Maul wouldn't have stared at him in awe (wow he's jumping over me maybe I should block. Nah I'll stand here and let him cut me in half) plus Maul was pretty quick with his lightsaber, I think he would have lasted a while with Yoda then either retreat or get killed. Plus does anyone know how old Maul was supposed to be? Didn't Sidious call him "my young apprentice" at some point or was I hearing things?

You can't artificially seperate a Jedi's power in the force and his skill at lightsabre duelling. The two go hand in hand- half the battle is using your force powers to aid your precognition of what your opponent's going to do, as well as other things (like using "force walls" to block your opponent from moving away, as Anakin did against Dooku). Read the novelizations of the films. Irrespective of Maul being a better "fighter"- Dooku would've still wiped the floor with him.

Re: Will Episode III surpass any of the OT movies?

Originally posted by MarioX
Will Revenge of the Sith be better than, say, A New Hope? Empire Strikes Back? Or Return of the Jedi? It might be, and I hope so. Why would one hope for a mediocre movie, anyway, just to keep the prestige of the OT? I hope that Revenge is excellent and is seen as better than one of the Original movies.

Also, which of the original movies would be ranked third-best to you? Ep 4, 5, or 6?

It depends on who you are.
If you like the story of anakin and becoming a sith along with all the movies special effects then you should like nt.
If you like the story of luke beating the sith as a jedi along with the old special effects you'll like the ot.

Re: Re: Will Episode III surpass any of the OT movies?

Another thing- re: Obi-Wan killing Maul "cheaply"- not really. Obi-Wan was going close to the Dark Side when he was fighting Maul (obviously), Maul used that against him when he force pushed him into the shaft. When he calmed himself and launched himself upward, Maul had no idea what he was doing- his precognition was clouded. Essentially, Obi-Wan used the force. I think it's in the novelization.

Originally posted by Arsenal
I think Maul was the emperor's most loyal apprentice...he had a painful tattoo done on his face just for him. Plus how many jedis can handle a double bladed lightsaber effectively?

I have to disagree there Arsenal, what about vader. [ Excluding bit where he throws over edge into core to save luke. ]

And all through ESB when he was planning to take the Empero's place and take Luke as his own.

Loyality not really a factor with the Sith.

Maul was loyal to sidious and tyranuss was loyal to sidious.

I don't think it will pass ESB, because to me that is a flawless movie. There are so many suprises and the tension is great. Unfortunately, we all know what will happen in ROTS, so that makes it more difficult to keep you on the edge of your seat. It will be better than TPM, ROTJ, and AOTC; but better than ANH, I don't know. If it get's a PG-13 rating, than all bets are off, this movie could be awesome! All in all, this will definitely be the #3 best Star Wars movie made.

it seems as though there is alot of wishful thinking going on in this thread, they know that it pronly wont surpass ANH or ESB but theyve turned their thinking and judgemant based on the other prequels into wishful ones, and i have fallen victim to that he he he.

Originally posted by Jedi_Green
Maul was loyal to sidious and tyranuss was loyal to sidious.

Tyrannus WAS loyal? So certain are you. And yes, Maul was loyal, but then: he never made it to the big league.

he's only HALF as good as obi wan.

...he he.

Maul had no idea what he was doing- his precognition was clouded.

Very interesting, well that changed my whole perspective.

(like using "force walls" to block your opponent from moving away, as Anakin did against Dooku).

He did that in Episode II or the upcoming movie?

I think that only happened in the novel actually. Not in the final cut of AOTC.

I liked ROTJ and i can't really decide on a fav. Star Wars movie... as a matter of fact when i was younger i liked the movies in order they came out...AOTC then TPM then ROTJ then ESB then ANH...

but now i can't decide..they are all good even ROTJ...for me..its your guy's loss not mine i really enjoy them all
i'm just scared ep. 3 will ruin it...

Originally posted by queeq
I think that only happened in the novel actually. Not in the final cut of AOTC.

Just because you don't explicitly see it in the film doesn't mean it didn't occur- it's not like you can "see" the force anyway. The novelizations are canon where they don't explicitly contradict the films (e.g. Yoda having blue skin in the TESB novelization or Luke being "Blue 5" instead of Red 5, things like that).