Does the tree fall when nobody observes?

Ooo...profoundididitititity! But does anyone care if the tree falls in the first place? AND AND AND AND...who pushed the tree? AND why did he/she/it push it? AND what is a tree? AND what is a nobody unless they are a somebody who was?

Now I know why you are running around in circles inside a box......What is a tree? it's whatever you want it to be - every somebody is a nobody, because there's no god.

Originally posted by Philosophicus
Now I know why you are running around in circles inside a box......What is a tree? it's whatever you want it to be - every somebody is a nobody, because there's no god.

Silly boy! It's not me running around the box! It's cartoon figure! I'm much taller than that! You think some people are only a cm tall!??!?!?!

Also, please don't blaspheme - I'm the son of god.

Philo quit calling ppl their statements idiotic it's not very nice

finti - even if someone witness something, the event only occured for that someone, telling the tale afterwards are empty words for an outsider. And how does a witness knows for sure that he/she is not imaginning the event?

Ou Be Low hoo - the son of God was also a lunatic and got crucified for that - do you really want to risk such a connotation? 🙂 I was once the son of god, but then god wanted to get rid of me because I could see through all his half-wit schemes and I actually proved his non-existence. So god dissappeared and consequently me too.

Fire - by idiotic I mean smart in a dumb way - some statements are just plain half-baked - this is a philosophy forum, we can't afford that kind of thinking if we're after the truth.

finti - Yes, that's why we feel sorry for the sensory disabled. But there are other things that exist for them, and also different versions of the things that exist for normal people.

Well everyone is entitled to post their opinions and ideas Philo, even if you think they are half-baked or anything. Noone here has the right to call ppl their statements idiotic, let alone the right to tell ppl what kind of thinking "we" can and can not afford

Fire, you say: "Well everyone is entitled to post their opinions and ideas ..." In other words I am entitled to give my opinions as well - by the way, it's in fact my (an) opinion to deem other opinions as idiotic, as well as to say what we can and can not afford - that's opinion as well - and you say everyone is entitled to it - so I'm entitled to any opinion I have.

We are entitled to our opinion as long as it isn' t a personal attack.

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finti - Yes, that's why we feel sorry for the sensory disabled. But there are other things that exist for them, and also different versions of the things that exist for normal people

we can't afford that kind of thinking if we're after the truth.

everything has to remain courtious, nobody here except you calls ppl their opinions and posts idiotic. So as long as you post every civilized then you are allowed to post whatever you want.

Yes, a tree can still fall if no one is around. Just becuase someone didn't see it happen doesn't mean it DIDN'T happen.

Awareness is definately and interesting issue, but I mean.. you believe that places (events in time even) are sortof like a video game? You know.. like when the player's point (or range) of view leaves an area, the area that he has exited becomes 'erased' or 'unloaded' thus leaving no possibility for actions to occur within that space. Also, if animals (or bugs even 🙂 ) witness this tree fall, but are unable to share that information and experience, does that make it invalid?

Storm and Fire: What happened to freedom of speach?

BackFire: No one has cosmic authority to say that a tree really fell. Only if there was a god, would it have been relevant to say that an event occured, and even then only god would have the authority to say so, but now there is no god, so there is no absolute truth. If you say you saw a tree fell, who are you, for instance, to be believed, moreover, can you believe yourself without doubring your sanity and judgement...you may even be imaginning it.

SaTsuJin: an event is only valid for the agent who experiences it, and even for him/her the event can be doubted.

It doesn't mean you can insult people!

Originally posted by Philosophicus
Storm and Fire: What happened to freedom of speach?

Freedom of speach means exactly what it says: freedom - freedom means freedom unconditionally. Just look at political campaigns, the politicians insult each other constantly.

It is only for the benefit of yourself to follow KMC' s rules.

Half of all the people in this forum are idiots!

You' re already guilty of 1 violation, I suggest you don' t force it up to 2.