JLA ultimate fight

norrin radd Senior Member

JLA ultimate fight

if all the JLA fought against each others who do you think would come out on top? who is the better fighter? and make a list to say who do you think is the 2, 3 etc.

the JLA will have the follow members: Superman, Batman, Martian Manhunter, Green lantern (hal jordan), flash (wally west), Aquaman, Wonderwoman, Plastic man.

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

1st Place: Superman
2nd Place: Wonder Woman
3rd Place: Martian Manhunter
4th Place: Green Lantern
5th Place: The Flash
6th Place: Batman
7th Place: Aquaman
8th Place: Plastic Man (useless son of gun)

norrin radd Senior Member

1st place: Martian Manhunter
2nd Place: Superman
3rd Place: Green lantern
4th Place: Wonder Woman
5th Place: Flash
6th Place: Batman
7th Place: Plastic Man
8th Place: Aquaman

it is stated that wonder woman has invulnerability right? but still she always uses her bracelets to stop bullets, which makes me think that she´s not that resistant to injury, and if thats the case then shes not that good and maybe flash would be able to beat her, even so i count with her "invulnerability" in this fight.

i know plastic man has more power then bats, but he´s an idiot, bat would use some gas to put him down (or maybe not).

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

I disagree with Aquaman. He's capable of lifting 60 tons (on land) and is basically bullet-proof

And Wonder Woman is pretty much bullet-proof. The creators let her keep the bracelets after the Infinite Crisis because it was one of her defining traits. She just deflects bullets either to protect innocent bystanders, reflect the bullets back at them or use them to demoralize the gun-wielding attackers. If she can take a hit from Doomsday and get right back up, bullets are not going to stop her.

Go to http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/wonder_woman/wonder_woman.html

for more info.

vaya_the_elf You know you love elves

why is hawkgirl not listed? If you are not going by the new cartoon.. then why not hawkman?

norrin radd Senior Member

i´m going for the comics, and i don´t like her.

vaya_the_elf You know you love elves

oh

norrin radd Senior Member

Originally posted by Draco69
I disagree with Aquaman. He's capable of lifting 60 tons (on land) and is basically bullet-proof
And Wonder Woman is pretty much bullet-proof. The creators let her keep the bracelets after the Infinite Crisis because it was one of her defining traits. She just deflects bullets either to protect innocent bystanders, reflect the bullets back at them or use them to demoralize the gun-wielding attackers. If she can take a hit from Doomsday and get right back up, bullets are not going to stop her.
Go to http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/wonder_woman/wonder_woman.html
for more info.

i know what you mean, i was just saying that i know she has big resistance to injury, but then they make her use always the bracelets against bullets and its silly.

still i consider wonder woman in all her glory and i still think she´s no mach for both GL, Supes or MM

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

Diana would lose to Superman and Martian Manhunter. But I think she would win against GL. The ring is a thought-based weapon. Whatever GL thinks, the ring makes it reality. The speed of thought is approximately 240 miles per hour. Diana can move faster than the speed of sound. GL goes down before he knows what hits him.

norrin radd Senior Member

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
oh

to be sincere i never read a comic with her so i really don´t know much about her

norrin radd Senior Member

Originally posted by Draco69
Diana would lose to Superman and Martian Manhunter. But I think she would win against GL. The ring is a thought-based weapon. Whatever GL thinks, the ring makes it reality. The speed of thought is approximately 240 miles per hour. Diana can move faster than the speed of sound. GL goes down before he knows what hits him.

interesting point of view. she must be able to punch him before he creates a shield, but aren´t the GL´s trained to creat a shiel very very fast to. if what you are saying can be done it makes sense, but if Gl is able to create the shield first she goes down.

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

Possibly. The ring is backed by willpower. Any construct he makes is dependent on his willpower. Green Lasers would automatically be deflected by WW. Any shield that GL makes is backed by his will to sustain it. So after a few hundred near Superman level punches and kicks to the shield, GL's shield would dissipate and WW can thusly knock him out.

norrin radd Senior Member

true if he didn´t fough back and only used the ring to protect himself. we are talking about hal jordan who has a great will power.

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

It's debatable if GL's willpower is enough to withstand the barrage of Wonder Woman's faster than sound attacks. Who knows?

norrin radd Senior Member

true speed counts alot, the ring also makes the user very fast they travel at warp speed in space, or something like that.

but like you´ve said who knows.

Quick Freeze GLC Memeber

1. superman
2. martian manhunter
3. green lantern
4. wonderwoman
5. aquaman
6. the flash
7. batman
8. plastic man

norrin radd Senior Member

no way aquaman could beat the flash

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Re: JLA ultimate fight

Originally posted by norrin radd
if all the JLA fought against each others who do you think would come out on top? who is the better fighter? and make a list to say who do you think is the 2, 3 etc.
the JLA will have the follow members: Superman, Batman, Martian Manhunter, Green lantern (hal jordan), flash (wally west), Aquaman, Wonderwoman, Plastic man.

Based on JLA: Tower of Babel, Batman would win. In that writing he was able to defeat each and every member of the JLA due to the fact he kept detailed databases on all of them. He literally took down the whole JLA by himself (and i mean ALL the major characters - Superman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, the Flash, Wonderwoman and Aquaman).
Now, based on JLA: Tower of Babel, the number two guy would be Martian Manhunter. It says in the comic that he too used to have a database on all the JLA (and other) superbeings, but that he destroyed it. It can be assumed that MM still has knowledge of all their weaknesses.
Anyways, it all boils down to this.
An open battle (not a quasi-assasination attempt like what Batman did) would probably end as follows.
1) Martian Manhunter. This guy is one of the most under-estimated people in the League. HE has near-Superman strength, has virtually all of Superman's powers (superbreath, martian vision etc), is one of the most potent telepaths in the universe (he could literally broil Xavier's mind), can turn intangible, can shape-shift, etc. And he had a detailed database on all of the League's abilities (Batman had a similar database, but Batman's was probably more lethal since it only delved with their weaknesses).
2) Superman. If Superman ever ran amok no one could be able to stop him. If he ever went mad and decided to use ALL of his abilities it would be over for everyone.
3) Green Lantern. Another power juggernaut! As Ion and Parallax it is seen that the energies that power the Green Lantern can destroy and create universes. However the above two examples were possible only when all other GLs were destroyed. Normally your typical Green Lantern is much weaker - much much weaker - but they stillwield a weapon that depends on their will power. That makes them exceedingly powerful (as long as they are not facing the MM, who would just affect their mind). A Green Lantern can ve quite deadly.
4) The Flash. This is another udner-estimated character. Most people think he can only zip about at super-speed, but he is literally able to go at the speed of light. At this speed his mass and force approach infinity, and he could literally punch harder than anyone can comprehend. All physical attacks would also be useless against him if he oscillated his body, becoming intangible (although MM could still affect his mind, and Supes could also oscillate his being and 'catch' the Flash).
5) Wonderwoman. Nigh Superman strength. Need i say more?
6) Aquaman. This is a toughie! The current Aquaman has strength that is quite amazing (not Wonderwoman level, but strong enough to do a lot). And he is a strong telepath - although it is rarely mentioned he can do a lot of telepathic attacks (and i do not mean against fish). He is nowhere near Martian Manhunter, but he is quite strong. He is also very fast - but because the JLA has much faster people this never makes it out much. Aquaman can run quite fast.
Now, the future version of Aquaman is something else. He is much stronger, and is able to even boil the water in someone's body! That Aquaman would beat Wonderwoman easy, but the current one has to be at number 6.
7) Batman. Bruce defeated the entire JLA. But that was due to them not expecting it. With this being a brawl, Batman would have little hope of doing much. All the people above are much stronger and faster than he is. Batman is the most dangerous man alive, and in many cases he can take down the entire JLA by himself (as he has before), but only IF the JLA is unawares. Against a JLA moving to take him down he would have little recourse. He may be able to take out one, but that's the most he could do.
8) Plastic man. Way out of this league - pun intended.

eleveninches God of my own world

It would depend on who struck first.

SUperman, wonder woman, flash and Green Lantern (hal) would be able to win in an instant if they caught their opponant off guard. Also, if it was not a pre-planned fight, then batman could take them all out one at a time by ambushing them.
But in a straight fight, it would be the first to attack out of the 4 listed above.

norrin radd Senior Member

the most dangerous minds in the league are batman and the manhunter. (batman more). but the only way batman can win this is with prep time, like it was mentioned. MM has the mind and the power to do so.

Who is the winner?