abortion: good or bad?

*waves to queeq* I already was 😄

I personally believe that all life deserves a chance, thats why we fight for freedom, justice, and or way of life. We are willing to die not just for a flag but for all who grace in its presence... Even in the case of rape life should be given that chance... we as a society should be ready to care for something that we may have fostered to case this person to rape. We as humans should stand by our human imperfection and foster those gifts given to us by God. For all of us in the end are in this together. No one knows what wonders or atrocities any bit of life can create. 🙁

I'm completely pro-choice - people should be allowed to make their own decisions.

Having said that, I am AGAINST abortion, BUT, I think it should always be your choice, and I would support anyone who chose abortion, as long as it was a well thought out decision.

did that make sense? 😑

Originally posted by finti
No by no means, never cared for them

they do ruin the experience
but then they do help you avoid aids and pregnancy
so worth using i suppose
although the pill is good if you know and trust the girl

Man, I remember in high school a bunch of hardcore anti-abortionists were walking around handing out flyers that showed pictures of dead babies and crap like that. It pretty much had the oposite effect on me then they desired, ever since then I have been for abortion because I don't want anything in common with those wackos.

I cannot understand Phoe's view. Either you think it is wrong or you do not. If you think it is wrong, then it remains wrong reagrdless of the person's choice involved. if you do not, then it does not matter anyway.

I mean, you cannot say you think murder is wrong but you support someone else's right to murder if they choose to- and if you think abortion is wrong, then murder is what you are bringing it down to.

I don't bloody know, that's my problem. I wish there was morte hard evidence.

I think she just meant that she's ok with other people having abortions, but she would never have one herself.

Originally posted by BackFire
...ever since then I have been for abortion because I don't want anything in common with those wackos.

Well horror fans don't go to highschools preaching garbage and passing out pictures of dead babies to push their agenda's on teenagers.

Originally posted by Raventheonly
I personally believe that all life deserves a chance, thats why we fight for freedom, justice, and or way of life. We are willing to die not just for a flag but for all who grace in its presence... Even in the case of rape life should be given that chance... we as a society should be ready to care for something that we may have fostered to case this person to rape. We as humans should stand by our human imperfection and foster those gifts given to us by God. For all of us in the end are in this together. No one knows what wonders or atrocities any bit of life can create. 🙁

Hypothetically speaking, let's say you have a daughter, and she was raped by her grandfather and he got her pregnant...would you honestly want her to be forced to give birth to that child? That's completely absurd. Why put her through that trauma? Abortion, in cases like this, is a god thing. Abortion as form of birth control, as most of us have said, is stupid. Use a condom or the pill!

no, but they like horrorflicks 😄

Originally posted by BackFire
I think she just meant that she's ok with other people having abortions, but she would never have one herself.

But that is my point. This is not like pornography, where you can say you do not like it but support another's right to use it.

If you think abortion is wrong it is because you think a human life is being killed. There is simply no circumstance I can see in which you would then support someone else's right to do it.

Horror flicks don't have pictures of dead babies in them.

Anyway, I remember these wackos got arrested after a few minutes (the high school was right across the street from the police department, shows how smart they were huh?) for causing a disruption and harrassing people. They also had big posters and picket signs with dead babies and pictures of disgaurded fetus's and all that crap. Man, they pissed me off.

Originally posted by Asami
In medical law, if the pregnancy puts the mother's life in danger, mother comes first, even if that means baby dies.

Even though a preganancy cannot be aborted after 24weeks (because it is a full baby but depends on mother in next few months) a foetus actually develops organs and a functioning brain in 10weeks of pregnancy.

Its an ethical question, but when is a foetus a baby? If it is morally wrong to kill human beings, is it wrong to kill foetuses?

The "brain" you speak of that is present during fetal development only functions to moniter its pulse and other vital functions. It cannot "think" or "feel" with it.

nevermind BF 🙁

Originally posted by Darth Revan
The "brain" you speak of that is present during fetal development only functions to moniter its pulse and other vital functions. It cannot "think" or "feel" with it.

I wish we knew that for a fact, but we don't. We know bugger all for certain.

Anyway, like I say, the Chinese partial birth and then kill babies that might actually easily survive if incubated. Where do you draw the line? Where does life begin?

Do you support abortion of babies that could actually live if removed from the womb? That happens a lot.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
But that is my point. This is not like pornography, where you can say you do not like it but support another's right to use it.

If you think abortion is wrong it is because you think a human life is being killed. There is simply no circumstance I can see in which you would then support someone else's right to do it.

Well I understand where she's coming from.

I myself probably wouldn't want to have an abortion if I accidentally got a girl pregnant, but on the other hand, if someone else wants too that's there choice. Hence why it's called pro choice, I feel anyone should be able to make the choice and be able to have an abortion if they want too, I don't have a problem with it, it's just not something I would do myself.

But Phoe does not say she simply would not chose to do it, she says she is against abortion- i.e. that she thinks abortion is wrong.

Which, as I say, means you think it is murder, in which case no-one has the right to choose it, from that logic, their body or otherwise.

Yeah, she worded in a questionable manner, but I think that's probably waht she meant. She's for a persons right to choose, but she wouldn't do it herself.

Okidokey... well, I shall see what the Phoemeister has to say.