Originally posted by Wolverine2006
On Wolverine's profile on Marvel.com it says he knows every martial arts in the world it surprised me but its marvel.com so I believe it. Wolverine is a better fighter than Daredevil and thats a fact...Wolverine would definitely get critical hits on Daredevil.
If thats what your decision is based off of, i have nothing more to say to you in regards of this fight. You continue to mention Marvel's stats which mean nothing. You have yet to actually PROVE that Wolverine is a better fighter than Daredevil. I only the other hand have proved otherwise. 😄
What? Uh, because he is a better fighter than Daredevil...Daredevil would throw a punch and get his arm cut off and then Wolverine would cut his head off, and then feel sorry for him because hes blind. How about this for proof he was in the special forces, hes had over a hundred years of experience, and he knows every martial arts in the world, unbreakable skeleton and 1 foot long claws, a healing factor, super senses, enhanced strength, durability and speed. DD is not going to defeat someone that is referred to as the Ultimate Killing Machine.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=wolverine+vs+daredevil/v=2/SID=w/l=IVI/;_ylt=A9G_Rqxuwx1EFRYBih2jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12ca68s2c/EXP=1142887662/*-http%3A//daredevil.dreamhost.com/animation/ddwolvloses.jpgThis is more like it
Now youre becoming a joke. I guess the only way Wolvie wins for you, is if its a made up image. 😐
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'm not picking on you jrod. I just think maybe you should tell Darkcrawler that. 😄I think you know what I'm talking about. 😉
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Big difference though snoop. Namor uses his experience and skills in battle about 60% more than Wolverine does.
And i do get what youre saying. 😆
Originally posted by jrodslam
Now youre becoming a joke. I guess the only way Wolvie wins for you, is if its a made up image. 😐
I'm the joke...I was just messing around with that pic but DD is not going to win. That is so lame that DD did that it was bad writing but thats not goin to convince u so let me c...Wolverine has beaten the Hulk, the thing, lobo, and the Sub-mariner. Like I have said Wolverine is a better fighter than DD. This argument is a joke Dd would be on the floor in pieces.
These are from Marvel.com
Wolverine-
Abilities
Due to his extensive training as a soldier, a C.I.A. operative, a samurai, a spy, and a member of the X-Men, Wolverine is an exceptional hand-to-hand combatant, having mastered virtually every fighting style on Earth. He is also a trained expert in multiple types of weapons, vehicles, computer systems, explosives, and assassination techniques. Wolverine is fluent in many languages, including Japanese, Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Lakota, and Spanish; he has some knowledge of French, Thai, and Vietnamese.
Daredevil-
Abilities
Daredevil is an Olympic-level athlete and gymnast with phenomenal speed, endurance, and reflexes, and an accomplished acrobat and fighter. Matt Murdock, though blind, is a highly skilled attorney at law.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I'm the joke...I was just messing around with that pic but DD is not going to win. That is so lame that DD did that it was bad writing but thats not goin to convince u so let me c...Wolverine has beaten the Hulk, the thing, lobo, and the Sub-mariner. Like I have said Wolverine is a better fighter than DD. This argument is a joke Dd would be on the floor in pieces.
Bad writing? First off, Wolverine has soft spots. Daredevil is one of the smartest tactical fighters on Marvel Earth. Its not bad writing at all. Why? Because Wolvie got taken down with one move? Regardless of who Wolvie beat, has no relevance here. Daredevil is different from all those you mentioned and uses a completely different technique. Believe what you want 8888. Im mean 2006. 😄
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
These are from Marvel.comWolverine-
Abilities
Due to his extensive training as a soldier, a C.I.A. operative, a samurai, a spy, and a member of the X-Men, Wolverine is an exceptional hand-to-hand combatant, having mastered virtually every fighting style on Earth. He is also a trained expert in multiple types of weapons, vehicles, computer systems, explosives, and assassination techniques. Wolverine is fluent in many languages, including Japanese, Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Lakota, and Spanish; he has some knowledge of French, Thai, and Vietnamese.Daredevil-
Abilities
Daredevil is an Olympic-level athlete and gymnast with phenomenal speed, endurance, and reflexes, and an accomplished acrobat and fighter. Matt Murdock, though blind, is a highly skilled attorney at law.
Sigh. Stats and bios means nothing. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? Comics > Stats and bios.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Bad writing? First off, Wolverine has soft spots. Daredevil is one of the smartest tactical fighters on Marvel Earth. Its not bad writing at all. Why? Because Wolvie got taken down with one move? Regardless of who Wolvie beat, has no relevance here. Daredevil is different from all those you mentioned and uses a completely different technique. Believe what you want 8888. Im mean 2006. 😄Sigh. Stats and bios means nothing. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? Comics > Stats and bios.
Says u...stats and bios from the companies website mean alot. U got one comic against a whole company. That one comic means nothing.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Says u...stats and bios from the companies website mean alot. U got one comic against a whole company. That one comic means nothing.
Says me? stats from companies and website means more than how the creators/writers display them?
People who do the stats get a general idea of a character. They dont read the comics.
Example.....
Company or Website guy #1: "Whos Sub-Mariner?"
Company or Website guy #2: "Hes Marvels first character."
Company or Website guy #1: "You know anything about him?:
Company or Website guy #2: "Not much. I just know that hes a water based powerhouse and gets weaker when he leaves the water."
Company or Website guy #1: "Ahh ok. You know how strong he is?
Company or Website guy #2: "Not really. Uhh, when did you start reading comics?"
Company or Website guy #1: "1985. Why?"
Company or Website guy #2: "Les just say he can lift 85 tons."
Company or Website guy #1: "Ok got it. Its done. Next character..."
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I...Dought...It
Pure fact.
Another one.
Company or Website guy #1: "Now we're up to Wolverine. What do you know of him?"
Company or Website guy #2: "Cool. I know his age is unknown cause hes so old."
Company or Website guy #1: "Great! So he must have alot of experience."
Company or Website guy #2: "Yea and hes been in the special forces so he has alot of training and stuff."
Company or Website guy #1: "Excellent! So he must know every type of fighting style in the world right?"
Company or Website guy #2: "Why not."
Company or Website guy #1: "Yea. That would make him more badass."
Company or Website guy #2: He has adamantium laced bones too. With claws that can cut through anything. Plus a healing factor."
Company or Website guy #1: Really? Oh this guy is never getting beat."
Company or Website guy #2: "Yup. Done...."
Originally posted by jrodslam
Says me? stats from companies and website means more than how the creators/writers display them?People who do the stats get a general idea of a character. They dont read the comics.
Example.....
Company or Website guy #1: "Whos Sub-Mariner?"
Company or Website guy #2: "Hes Marvels first character."
Company or Website guy #1: "You know anything about him?:
Company or Website guy #2: "Not much. I just know that hes a water based powerhouse and gets weaker when he leaves the water."
Company or Website guy #1: "Ahh ok. You know how strong he is?
Company or Website guy #2: "Not really. Uhh, when did you start reading comics?"
Company or Website guy #1: "1985. Why?"
Company or Website guy #2: "Les just say he can lift 85 tons."
Company or Website guy #1: "Ok got it. Its done. Next character..."
Actually I think it goes both ways. The stats and bios from the companies give you a basic understanding of what a character can do, however it doesn't dictate what a character is capable of achieving. Its stupid to completely discount it and equally as foolish to base your whole argument on them.
It actually goes the same way with the crossovers. For the most part, even when are obviously so one-sided, one person isn't going to get totally owned by the other. You probably wouldn't see Wolverine killing Cap or DD, or Spider-Man taking out DD or Wolverine in one punch. Thats just how it is, it has to seem fair even though it really isn't.
If a person owns or have read a good amount of a characters comic appearances, i think bios and stats should be completely discounted. If one never read a Daredevil or Namor comic in their life save for only a book or two, then id completely understand the use of handbooks. Just to get an idea of what the character is like. However, when entering debates, that information from handbooks can be highly misleading in thinking those are the only limits and abilities of those characters.
Say if i read a handbook and it states someone knows the entire alphabet, but only shows they know the first 12 in comics they appear in, id go by what i read and see in the books. Just like if a handbook says a characters only knows the first 9 letters of the alphabet and in the books, they appear to know 18 of them, id be inclined to disregard the handbook and go off whats displayed in the comic moreso.
