Originally posted by capt it up
no becuase from a sititng postion with legs out in front of him he can not use most of his strength. All he can use his his arms strength at quite a wierd angle sicne he has to pull out wards.
it's not that weird a motion...it's basically doing a tricep curl
all he needs to do is push his arms forward as he uses the wall as leverage...it doesn't matter if he is sitting or standing, makes no difference
Originally posted by capt it up
not really sicne it all took palce in a matter of seconds. He would have been fine hell spider women knows betetr then any one to get away from wolverine. He was not stunned. Hell she did this after wolverine had crashed a plan and had been running through the woods for 6 hours not tomention the massive battle he had after crashing.Still wolverien was fien from the stabbed to the throat and responded with in seconds.
It was many seconds and Wolvie alone was on the floor for a few seconds in surprise. If she had continued the attack he wouldnt have been fine at all. You could tell by the look on his face that he was stunned as well as upset. Hell, he kept saying "She stabbed me in the neck with my own claws!" Dont make excuses for Wolvie. He was the one who had the claws out ready to attack her first. Are you implying he was weakend from his previous battle there?
Wolvie wasnt completely fine, but he was trying to get there. Yea he could have continued to fight. Noone is saying otherwise, but he wasnt fine considering he could barely speak to Cap and the others. He responded within seconds, but it doesnt mean he was at 100%
Originally posted by masterbruce
it's not that weird a motion...it's basically doing a tricep curlall he needs to do is push his arms forward as he uses the wall as leverage...it doesn't matter if he is sitting or standing, makes no difference
There was nothing to indicate that he had been weaken from the attack. Wolverine has enevr in the past been weaken strength wise from such attacks. He also was in a terriable postion. Also he then fights gorgon right after wards which just strength the idea that it had no weaken him.
Originally posted by jrodslam
It was many seconds and Wolvie alone was on the floor for a few seconds in surprise. If she had continued the attack he wouldnt have been fine at all. You could tell by the look on his face that he was stunned as well as upset. Hell, he kept saying "She stabbed me in the neck with my own claws!" Dont make excuses for Wolvie. He was the one who had the claws out ready to attack her first. Are you implying he was weakend from his previous battle there?Wolvie wasnt completely fine, but he was trying to get there. Yea he could have continued to fight. Noone is saying otherwise, but he wasnt fine considering he could barely speak to Cap and the others. He responded within seconds, but it doesnt mean he was at 100%
A massive plane crash then a massive battle with meta humans and then being chased by a group of mutates I would assume he was damage since well he was running from them after all........
The stabb in the throat hurt him, but he easily could have kept fighting. The attack was also far far far far more damaging then DD little jab.
Originally posted by capt it up
he was stunned that his own claws went into his throat not due to damage sicne he respondss with an attack with in seconds. If she had kept attack she get stabbed. He was fine for battle and clearly could have kept fighting. Logan actaully never was going to attack her he was trying to figure out who she was if he was going to attack her he would not have sat there he would have done it.
Umm he was stunned due to the fact that she reacted first and MADE him stab himself with his own claws. If she had kept up the attack, i doubt Wolvie would have stabbed her. Like i said before, yes he could have continued to fight, but he would have been 100%. You also mention that Logan was never going to attack her, but just gonna figure out who she was? If thats the case, then why in the he would he creep up behind her with his claws extracted? He knows their scents, so why not just come out and make himself known? Your logic seems a bit flawed capt. You say he wasnt gonna attack, yet he had his claws out ready to make one.
Originally posted by capt it up
A massive plane crash then a massive battle with meta humans and then being chased by a group of mutates I would assume he was damage since well he was running from them after all........
No excuse. We never saw this "massive battle" did we? Plus if he was damaged, again, why have your claws out creeping behind Spider Woman? If you know the scents, make yourself known so that you wouldnt have to have any accidental fights maybe?
Originally posted by capt it up
The stabb in the throat hurt him, but he easily could have kept fighting. The attack was also far far far far more damaging then DD little jab.
Again, im not saying that he couldnt have continued to fight. Had Spider Woman continued her assault after stabbing him, i doubt that Wolvie would have immediatey been able to fight back. Also whos to say one attack was more damaging than the other? Thats the whole point behind nerve/pressure hits. Maximum damage with minimum effort. The results were the same however.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Umm he was stunned due to the fact that she reacted first and MADE him stab himself with his own claws.
Originally posted by jrodslam
If she had kept up the attack, i doubt Wolvie would have stabbed her
Originally posted by jrodslam
Like i said before, yes he could have continued to fight, but he would have been 100%.
Originally posted by jrodslam
You also mention that Logan was never going to attack her, but just gonna figure out who she was? If thats the case, then why in the he would he creep up behind her with his claws extracted? He knows their scents, so why not just come out and make himself known? Your logic seems a bit flawed capt. You say he wasnt gonna attack, yet he had his claws out ready to make one.
Originally posted by jrodslam
No excuse. We never saw this "massive battle" did we?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Plus if he was damaged, again, why have your claws out creeping behind Spider Woman? If you know the scents, make yourself known so that you wouldnt have to have any accidental fights maybe?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Again, im not saying that he couldnt have continued to fight. Had Spider Woman continued her assault after stabbing him, i doubt that Wolvie would have immediatey been able to fight back.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Also whos to say one attack was more damaging than the other?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Thats the whole point behind nerve/pressure hits.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Maximum damage with minimum effort. The results were the same however.
Also pressure points take a lot of effort…….
Also the results are not the same at all…….
Originally posted by capt it up
He was trying to figure out who she was and she blasted him in the face……..and attacked him……
How was he trying to figure out who she was? He was creeping behind her with his claws extracted. Didnt he smell Cage? Woudnt he figure shes not an enemy? She noticed him creeping behind her and she flawed his ass.
Originally posted by capt it up
I don’t he veen stabbed before in the throat and kept fighting and as seen he kept fighting there too.
What other times was he stabbed in the throat and kept fighting? And AGAIN, im not saying that he couldnt have kept fighitng. However had she continued with gher attack, i think he would have been hard pressed to.
Originally posted by capt it up
He was not at 100 percent to begin with…….nor would it had effected him that much to make an difference.
How do you know he wasnt 100% to begin with? If hes about to creep behind someone, wouldnt it make more sense to heal before doing so? Plus we dont know how long it was since he was last in battle.
Originally posted by capt it up
Did you even read the issue? He clearly states that he could not recognize either of there scents, because “this place is screwy like that”.
Yes, but regardless of the fact, Luke said "Whyd you jump her man?"...Then Wolvie said, "Im being tracked. Im being followed and i couldnt take no chances." That means he was about to attack her. Looks like you didnt read the issue either.😬 That makes 2 of us.
Originally posted by capt it up
I not seeing as how he attack seconds later……..
Like i said, had she continued with her assault.
Originally posted by capt it up
Because have three foot long claws in your throat is more damaging then having your adam’s apple nocked in……..
Umm Wolvie can heal from a deep cut in his throat. He cant heal from loss of oxygen.
Originally posted by capt it up
Do you even know were pressure points are? The spot were he hit was the adams apple there no pressure points there……
I know what pressure points are. That would be a type of pressure hit. With the right amount of pressure applied to the adams apple, youd start to have trouble breathing and getting oxygen. If you notice, theres not much pain when the pressure is actually applied.
Originally posted by capt it up
No actually that false. Pressure point damage is not any were near as damaging. It normaly a lot less damaging it simply mess with the body. A stab of any kind cause more damage to the body then pretty much any pressure point.Also pressure points take a lot of effort…….
Also the results are not the same at all…….
Actually its not completely false. Pressure point damage can be more damaging. Daredevil has shown this time and time again. Naturally it can be less damaging say if someone was stabbed in the arm, but one may still be able to use/lift that arm. A pressure point can make that arm much more useless at that moment than a stab or shot would. Ive been stabbed in the leg, but was still able to run after the person. Had in been a pressure point imight not have been able to use the leg at all of a while. The wounds is more damaging yes, but i was stillable to use it.
Also to apply a pressure point doesnt take alot of effort at all. It takes being precise. To try and stab someone would take more effort because it would be more obvious and more likely to be evaded or deflected. Nerve hit come from nowhere and are less likely to see coming.
The results can be the same.