the secret to be seen as intelligent, and to be..

Storm, you don't agree with the Socratic method because you can't win an argument. Socrates was the most ingenius of arguers. You've given up arguing with me in the Illusion-Reality thread because you couldn't proove your point. peterKSL made a brilliant point when he said:

"And to go to the point, basicly intelligence, wisdom, and smartness, I define as familiarity. If one is smart, intelligent, or wise, one must be familiar in whatever subject that one is (seen as) smart, intelligent or wise in."

If one is to be seen as smart one has to know one's subject of speciality very thoroughly - familiarity is the weapon. But one can also be intelligent without much in depth knowledge of anything. I would say that real intelligence is the ability to think logically, rationally and creatively at the extreme level.

Socrates was the most ingenius of arguers.

Originally posted by finti
matter of opinion

also matter of opinion. 😮‍💨

opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and they think that their own doesn't stink.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and they think that their own doesn't stink.

So, the same applies to you then, right? 'Cause that's one stinking opinion of yours - I admit my ******* stinks, but damn, your opinion reeks even more of crap than crap itself!

Originally posted by Philosophicus
Storm, you don't agree with the Socratic method because you can't win an argument. Socrates was the most ingenius of arguers. You've given up arguing with me in the Illusion-Reality thread because you couldn't proove your point.

I proved my point. I can' t help it that you have the listening and debating skills of a concrete wall.

My initial goal was to refer to anamnesis/recollection. I confused Plato and Socrates due to the Meno.
I don' t believe that humans entirely learn through recollection.

Skipping all the Greek philosophy....for me the words intelligent, wise, and smart are ways to recognize a persons intuition and skills within them to produce reasonable arguments. That doesn't mean that they going to be super genius all the time. Since they are humans they are very likely to have flaws or maybe wrong reasoning. Either way a person cannot be smart all the time. That applies to philosophers, writers, scientists, and also religious people.

EVERYTHING is all about possibilities!!! Getting familiar, is to get familiar with the possibilities!!! To think, is to find possibilities, and to find possibilities, there is only 2 ways, knowledge, or by imagination...

To be creative, one has to inherit it from gene and basic interest, and still in the boundary of possibility. "The only way to be entirely good in possibilities, is by familiarity..." <-- important point..

Creatively at the extreme level is still learning.. it is under the hierarchy of thinking.. generating possibilities... I agree with you, that a person is wise, to generate possibility, the work of originality. Generate possibility--> present, Familiarity--> past. Both are connected in the search for the truth...

Originally posted by WindDancer
Skipping all the Greek philosophy....for me the words intelligent, wise, and smart are ways to recognize a persons intuition and skills within them to produce reasonable arguments. That doesn't mean that they going to be super genius all the time. Since they are humans they are very likely to have flaws or maybe wrong reasoning. Either way a person cannot be smart all the time. That applies to philosophers, writers, scientists, and also religious people.

It is very true that people can't be smart all the time, that is because no one is capable of being familiar in everything... at least without the means of technology in the future.. 😉

Originally posted by Philosophicus
If one is to be seen as smart one has to know one's subject of speciality very thoroughly - familiarity is the weapon.

That's not necessarily true. It is the best way to do it, but if you're tricky and good with words, you can come across like you know what you're talking about even if you really don't. 😉

Originally posted by Darth Revan
That's not necessarily true. It is the best way to do it, but if you're tricky and good with words, you can come across like you know what you're talking about even if you really don't. 😉

Very true. 🙂

Originally posted by Storm
😆
Winning? Is that your only concern?

I proved my point. I can' t help it that you have the listening and debating skills of a concrete wall.

My initial goal was to refer to anamnesis/recollection. I confused Plato and Socrates due to the Meno.
I don' t believe that humans entirely learn through recollection.

You did not proove your point. Something can only be proven if the argument logically refutes all possible counter arguments - you merely resorted to scientific definitions, because you could not proove it logically - scientific definitions are mere interpretations.

Same here, I can' t help it that you have the listening and debating skills of a concrete wall. Anyway, if I'm a concrete wall, why do you debate with me?

Recollection is the foundation of learning, because without recollection you will be unable to draw relations between ideas, as you cannot recollect past learning and thus your learning cannot progress. All learning is based upon past learning - building on the recollection of past learning.

Is it me or does Philosophicus always, without fail, seem as though he's talking completely out of his rectum?

I don't think I have ever met a more pretentious, self-appreciating (for no reason) person in my entire life, on the net or otherwise.

-AC

Philosophicus, don't be so full of yourself.

We all know you're not some kind of super genius.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Is it me or does Philosophicus always, without fail, seem as though he's talking completely out of his rectum?

I don't think I have ever met a more pretentious, self-appreciating (for no reason) person in my entire life, on the net or otherwise.

-AC

I think you are thinking out of your rectum, because obviously you don't have the intellectual capacity to appreciate philosophy, and that's why you think I'm pretentious. If you don't undersdtand someone's philosophy, you can't criticise it meaningfully.

"I think you are thinking out of your rectum, because obviously you don't have the intellectual capacity to appreciate philosophy, and that's why you think I'm pretentious. If you don't undersdtand someone's philosophy, you can't criticise it meaningfully."

I don't have intellectual capacity?

Judging by what you know of me, you must be basing that on what I've said so far. Just because I disagree with your methods and techniques, it equates to me lacking intellectual capacity?

Wrong, it does not. THAT is being not only pretentious, but outrageously self absorbed.

If I have a philosophy, I recognise that not everyone on here may immediately get it, therefore to create discussion I simplify it to make it more palatable. You shouldn't come in a philosophy forum, over complicate or not simplify things, and then claim how you're a genius because no one understands you. It's a cowardly, pseudo-intellectual technique.

What have you got to hide that's so worth over complicating? Could it be that you've not got any incredibly intricate views after all? I'm asking, not assuming. Could that be it?

As for saying I don't appreciate philosophy, I do. I don't appreciate the misuse and butchering of it for personal gain however. Which is exactly what you do on this forum.

-AC

Well, I've got news for you: my philosophy has been published in 5 countries around Europe, USA, and South Africa and it's been acclaimed to have revolutionary concepts by many critics.

Just like you're a philosophy teacher?

I'm not a philosophy teacher and I don't want to be one - one cannot be taught to think philosophically.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f75/t321515.html

Just a reminder, one who's lied before will lie again. I expect to see another thread stating the truth that you actually have never been published, and the "critics" you speak of are in reality your mommy and daddy.