"Our concern is that these young offenders will not stop with one small kitten and will move on to other animals and people. Perhaps the next time the result could be fatal."
Reading it back, it struck me how very off target this quote is.
If they were brave enough to do it to people they would have not chose the kitten.
"i will hit a kat or dog never i will beet them. i ll smack em but not wwe them sit there and try to kill em."
So hitting them once isn't as bad as a continual beating? Maybe so but you're still striking something that can more or less not strike you back.
-AC
Well we have a cat down here and I never hit it because first of all cats are pretty small.. and second of all it never really does anything wrong. But the dog at my mom's house in North Carolina we do hit, when it misbehaves to teach it a lesson. Not anything that is going to injure her or even hurt her that much just to let her know she screwed up and we're pissed about whatever she did. My parents used to spank me when I was little... you think I had the chance to hit them back? No. If I can take it the dog can take it.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Our concern is that these young offenders will not stop with one small kitten and will move on to other animals and people. Perhaps the next time the result could be fatal."Reading it back, it struck me how very off target this quote is.
If they were brave enough to do it to people they would have not chose the kitten.
-AC
I don't agree completely honey, things spiral. It's not about bravery or courage, it was simply something for them to do to pass their time and get some personal gratification. So yes, IMO, if they can do it to a kitten then they are capable of doing it to a child.
Originally posted by Afro CheeseOk, say your misbehaving, Do I have the right to punch you in the face?
Well we have a cat down here and I never hit it because first of all cats are pretty small.. and second of all it never really does anything wrong. But the dog at my mom's house in North Carolina we do hit, when it misbehaves to teach it a lesson. Not anything that is going to injure her or even hurt her that much just to let her know she screwed up and we're pissed about whatever she did. My parents used to spank me when I was little... you think I had the chance to hit them back? No. If I can take it the dog can take it.
"I don't agree completely honey, things spiral. It's not about bravery or courage, it was simply something for them to do to pass their time and get some personal gratification. So yes, IMO, if they can do it to a kitten then they are capable of doing it to a child."
I never said they weren't CAPABLE, as they obviously have violent tendencies. I was just saying I doubt they possess the courage to do it to a child.
As a result of two possible things:
A) It's a human not an animal (not saying either are less important, just example).
B) The consequences of taking out violent acts on a kitten are MUCH less drastic than doing the same to a small child and due to being gutless cowards, I doubt they wanna risk getting sent to jail for murder or something, off the back of a violent whim.
So no, I don't believe they would do it to a child or adult just coz they did it to a kitten IMO.
-AC
Originally posted by SlipknoTYou don't see the difference between spanking your kids when they misbehave and punching a stranger in the face? You don't do it to the point where it's gonna hurt them. It's not like I would go up to the dog and start kicking it's ass. Most of the time I just yell at the thing anyway but I'm just saying that hitting your dog once when it's in trouble isn't as bad as continually beating it. You don't hit it hard enough to do damage.
Ok, say your misbehaving, Do I have the right to punch you in the face?
Yes, millions of kittens die anyway, but that doesn't give these ****ers the right to bash in another kittens brains!!!! You're just rationalizing these posts, plus, if it's so "blown out of proportion," then why are you posting in the first place? If 300 posts is so "blown out of proporion," then why are you just adding to it? These kids completely repulsed me, they'll get what's coming to them. I hope a bear mauls them someday.
AC - Simply put, you wouldn't know if they were babysitters and also kitten torturers. How would you know??
SlipknoT - The difference is, one course of action is mild discipline and is necessary, IMO, for the upbringing of a child or pet... as long as the parent/owner doesn't take advantage of their status as disciplinary then there should be no problem. The point is, beating a child/animal and letting them know they did wrong are two different methods. The latter being the widely accepted mode of discipline and the former a completely barbaric way to treat anything.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"I don't agree completely honey, things spiral. It's not about bravery or courage, it was simply something for them to do to pass their time and get some personal gratification. So yes, IMO, if they can do it to a kitten then they are capable of doing it to a child."I never said they weren't CAPABLE, as they obviously have violent tendencies. I was just saying I doubt they possess the courage to do it to a child.
As a result of two possible things:
A) It's a human not an animal (not saying either are less important, just example).
B) The consequences of taking out violent acts on a kitten are MUCH less drastic than doing the same to a small child and due to being gutless cowards, I doubt they wanna risk getting sent to jail for murder or something, off the back of a violent whim.
So no, I don't believe they would do it to a child or adult just coz they did it to a kitten IMO.
-AC
__Some don't, some do. Fact is, it's a "testing" for some people. Testing limits. Expanding behaviors. Lots of violent sexual predators, for example, have severe documented incidents of animal cruelty in the past. It's not uncommon for people to commit violence on other humans- to rape, or beat- with robbery or sexgrat as motivations- and I'd say these boys are more on that road than the majority who'd NEVER hurt an animal.
__That said, some children hurt animals and haven't gone on to murder humans. Nor would they hurt an animal now- but it's a definite warning sign and both criminal punishment and psychiatric examination are warranted. The worst thing is to let someone get away with it and bolster their confidence in these "adventures."