Tortured Kitten

"so you declare me to be presumptuous, and then you once again go on to ASSUME that such a beating would be for the sake of satisfaction? then you label it as "general", as if MOST who would do it thinks this is justification.
and i have to ask you, how do you know this? if such an action is such nonsense and far beneath you, then how can you presume to know the motives of someone who thinks its fair?"

A) I never assumed the beating would be because of satisfaction. I'm saying that if subduing/stopping the person is your aim, then beating them after doing so would be satisfaction or something other than needed.

B) Because people have stated their motives on here and I'm going by what I have seen and heard, in general. I'm not speaking on behalf of every single person. Way to accuse me of assumptions then do it yourself.

"however, you are assuming way too much as well."

No, I'm not. As explained. You are just interpreting what I've said, wrongly.

"its about justice"

Like I said, unless you're the authorities, it isn't your place to be dealing out such. That would be taking the law into your own hands.

-AC

well now we are straying into a legal arguement, in which case you are right and capable of 'winning' such a debate. but we are not quoting the lawbooks are we?

anyway, you cant just form an arguement, a worded sentence of an arguement and declare that i read it wrong. its a simple statement and you did assume. but you will never admit to that as im sure you were never wrong in your life.

"My original point was, when you take it past "helping" and into "beating the shit out of them" for satisfaction, PAST the point of the criminal or attacker being subdued, you're not doing anything the kitten abusers didn't do."

"I was referring to it in general. If anyone beats someone up out of satisfaction or takes it past subduing and into satisfaction,"

really dude, then what ARE you saying here?

"its a simple statement and you did assume. but you will never admit to that as im sure you were never wrong in your life."

I did not assume. I just explained myself which I am not obligated to do but I did so to clear it up.

Yet it obviously did no good.

Stop labelling me with things like "You've obviously never been wrong in your life" as if that's the way I act. If I'm not wrong I'm not gonna admit I am. It's that simple.

-AC

when my dad was a teenager him and his buddies whiped a cat's butt with paint thinner.

my dad said that cat took 2 steps then ran around the garage like a bat out of hell tearing up everything in site.

🙁

Hahaha.

Funny mental image.

-AC

try wiping your own ass with paint thinner and tell me how funny it is

Calm down.

I was refering to the cat running around and tearing shit up, not the paint thinner.

Taking this a bit too seriously.

-AC

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
i agree with Dexx.
This is THE most pointless thing ever.
OK the cat got beat up, like it NEVER EVER happens ANYWHERE.
God they even showed this on the news in California, and it happened in Austrailia!
They could be reporting on more important things. This is just stupid. IT shows how the media warps things to avoid talking about bigger issues.

yeah it happens, but it SHOULDN'T happen!

Grow up. Animal cruelty is a huge issue - just because they can't talk or design computers doesn't mean they don't have nerve endings. These boys at FIFTEEN can do this to a defenceless animal - what's to stop them torturing a human, maybe even a child if they harbour an obsession for hurting things incapable of defending themselves!

"These boys at FIFTEEN can do this to a defenceless animal - what's to stop them torturing a human, maybe even a child if they harbour an obsession for hurting things incapable of defending themselves!"

I agree but as said to Syren, it's highly unlikely (though not impossible) that any kid at 15 is gonna wanna run the risk of getting sent to jail. Most kids do that sort of thing because they see it as just being bad, not necessarily coz they wanna be evil.

-AC

and just how do you know this to the point where you can quote the majority?

Anyone who hurts animals for fun..Are very Sick

"and just how do you know this to the point where you can quote the majority?"

I was unaware that I just stated I was speaking for everyone and not myself.

Yes that was sarcasm.

Might wanna stop interpreting my posts according to how you wanna read em and start interpreting them how they are meant. Nobody else seems to have trouble besides you.

Then again it would APPEAR you've taken quite a personal view on this debate or at least a very strong stance. People can't laugh in this thread without you jumping on it.

-AC

hmm....

Cun... etcs.

Would like to see them mauled by lions.

I would like to see them get their comeuppance also.

Just don't see why if it was happening around me, that I'd have to be the one to go over there and fight the people doing it. Really is none of my business.

Wouldn't go and help a human if a lion was mauling him/her either.

-AC

Bcka.

Hahahahaha.

Nah, you are.

-AC

Kharmadog is correct- he never compared the level of cruelty involved in beating a kitten to raping a woman; he simply stated they were both cruelty and he wanted to stop it- and avenge it.
__Not only the woman was assaulted, but also Kharmadog felt threatened, I'm sure, on some level...the rapist interjected violence and implied threat into his life, too, and into the lives of all the witnesses... Anger is a GOOD response, an animal response that I completely validate.
__I thought originally we were discussing the idea of "wishing" those kids could be available to us, now, for a beat-down...that would be satisfying, but not moral.
__Also, AC, I'm concerned by the fact that you want to distance yourself from these kitten-beating kids to the extent that you'd disavow your humanity- because that is how it seems to me- humanity is both your noble attributes and these feelings. Of course we are revealing that our minds can operate just as those kids' minds did...that's GOOD. We should KNOW that this is in us...and also that it is restrained by something else in us. It's GOOD to acknowledge that THIS is humanity, this is the state of being human; this ability to take primal satisfaction in redressing a perceived harm or wrong by violence... We should KNOW this about ourselves and our neighbors. It is the strongest argument for society and civilization that could be made!